Photoshop CC 2020 MacOS Catalina - Cannot Overwrite File

Participant ,
Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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Hi 

 

Ever since upgrading to Catalina, Photoshop when saving a file, will not overwrite the file, just creates the same filename with _copy appended. I have to manuually delete the original then save - very annoying!

 

Please could you suggest a workaround ahead of a permanent fix?

Thank you!

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Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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Where are your files located- internal or external or network drive? Have you updated Catalina to 10.15.3?

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Participant ,
Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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They are all located on the same internal hard drive. Yes, Im using 10.15.3. 

 

Im using lots of other applications, and none of the others seem to have the same issue - only Photoshop. It happens to whatever file format - TIFF, jpg etc. 

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Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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And is your photoshop up to date on version 21.0.3?

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Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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Do you have all the rights in that folder?

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Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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Yes, Photoshop is 21.0.3 - I've done this in various subfolders that I have created - same issue. Other applications have been able to write/overwrite fine within in the same structure. 

 

I can read/write but 'staff' and 'everyone' can read only - just defaults. 

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Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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I've changed them all to read and write, but still does not work

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 11, 2020 Feb 11, 2020

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Some files WILL be name4d copy by default, it has nothing to do with Catalina.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/save-as-copy-can-t-turn-off/td-p/9137384?page=1

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Participant ,
Feb 12, 2020 Feb 12, 2020

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Whatever it is, Photoshop, Catalina, it's brand new behaviour since I got this new machine - It just had a clean install of Catalina and the latest Photoshop. Photoshop CC 2020 never used to do this before the Catalina upgrade. 

 

It doesn't matter jpg, TIFF, whatever, layers flattened or not, if you try to save in any image format over a file, the file name gets appended with _copy. I have to then delete and rename very time which is extremely annoying. 

 

It's not permissions, and this behaviour is unique to Photoshop - no other apps do it, even in the same directory. 

 

It obviously is an issue with Photoshop and Catalina:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/m-catalina-save-as-save-as-copy-not-changing-file-name-or-e...

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New Here ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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Hello there! I have the same specs and the exact same problems! I even granted Full Disk Access for Photoshop. Photoshop still creates file copies when I want to overwrite files. 

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Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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Just to make sure: Hitting cmd-S creates a copy without any further user input? 

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Participant ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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What I'm doing is:

 

+ starting from a PSB file 

+ command+shift+S then select a JPG file that already exists eg file.jpg

+ new file is saved as file_copy.jpg 

 

Pre Catalina, Photoshop never used to do this - it used to show to 'file already exists. Overwrite?' dialog, then overwrote original file overwritten. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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This might be a behavior that macOS 10.15 Catalina is introducing.

 

I'm working with Photoshop 21.0.2 under macOS 10.13 High Sierra and I'm able to switch to saving as a flat JPEG from a layered PSD, have the Save diaplog box automaticaly select and dim "As a Copy", and have no " copy" added the the file name up in the text field.  I'm able to over-write an existing JPEG without " copy" appearing as well.  " copy" only appears if doing a save as to the same PSD format.

 

I have access to a running Catalina and PS.  I'll try to report back later to see if I can duplicate this unexpected naming behanvior.

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Participant ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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Thanks Warren!

I had no problems before Catalina. From here they have another issue with
"Save As" not appending '_copy_ to filenames as a known issue with
Catalina. I seem to have the opposite!

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macos-catalina.html

Thanks for your help!

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 24, 2020 Feb 24, 2020

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I upgraded to Catalina over the weekend and gave this a try.  Yikes!

 

You're still prompted in Photoshop that you're going to replace the existing JPEG, leading you to expect to have one JPEG with the current appearance; however, when you go out to the Finder you'll see the first save as JPEG with the prior appearance and the second save as JPEG with " copy" appeneded to the filename with the current appearance.

 

Making it more confusing is that if you go back to your layered PSD and save as a JPEG again, you'll always be replacing the JPEG with " copy" in the filename.  At that point, the " copy" JPEG is replaced similar to how one would have expected the first JPEG to be replaced in the first place.

 

This happens in both PS CC2019 20.0.8 and PS2020 21.1.0 under macOS Catalina 10.15.3.  This does not happen in macOS High Sierra 10.13.

 

It also happens when using Save As... to save a TIFF or PNG instead of a JPEG.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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That.is.how.it.should.work.

We have explained this multiple times. Its as designed.

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Participant ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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Thanks Lumigraphics for you reply.

I sense your annoyance 🙂

With the greatest respect, please could you reconsider this default
behaviour, as this is very annoying. When working and having to make
changes and save to the same file multiple times, and each time having to
delete the old one and then rename the "_copy) version is tedious.

If it's just me I can understand, but if you are having to explain this
lots of times, maybe the users are trying to tell you something?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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We are volunteers, not Adobe. I don't know that reasons behind that choice.

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Participant ,
Feb 13, 2020 Feb 13, 2020

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Firstly, thank you for taking the time to reply and your input on the forum
is definitely appreciated.

I'm not sure if Adobe read these forums? Would it be possible to relay this
back to them? Especially if you are finding that you have to repeat
yourself at with this?

In the meantime, and if this is default behaviour, Im going to use
Affinity for this sort fo work.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 24, 2020 Feb 24, 2020

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Perhaps a better way to describe it is this as follows:

 

Unexpected behavior when using File > Save As... to replace a JPEG, PNG or TIFF.  Instead of replacing the exiting JPEG, PNG, or TIFF, a copy is created (resulting in two files rather than a single, replaced file).  Using File > Save As... again will result in the copy being replaced as one would expect of the first file.

The expected behavior is that File > Save As.. will replace the existing JPEG, PNG or TIFF file without creating copy.

 

Workaround for JPEG:

Use File > Export > Export As....  Existing JPEGs will be replaced as expected.  Or,

Move the existing JPEG to the Trash prior to using File > Save As...

 

Workaround for PNG:

Use File > Export > Export As... or File > Export > Quick Export as PNG.  Existing PNGs will be replaced as expected.  Or,

Move the existing PNG to the Trash prior to using File > Save As...

 

Workaround for TIFF:

Move the existing TIFF to the Trash prior to using File > Save As....

 

This affects Photoshop CC2019 (20.0.8) and Photoshop 2020 (21.1.0) under macOS Catalina 10.15.3.

 

Hopefully replacing a file returns to how it behaved under prior versions of macOS sometime soon. 

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New Here ,
Apr 02, 2020 Apr 02, 2020

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Thank you for this. 
I'm having the same issue, working on a large project integrating Photoshop and Indesign and it is MADDENING.
The workaround is not as efficient as I'd like, but so much better than constantly weeding or renaming files. 

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New Here ,
May 06, 2020 May 06, 2020

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Same problem on a 2012 and 2018 iMac both running the latest Catalina and PS.

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Jul 27, 2020 Jul 27, 2020

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Hi, is this somehting that they will fix at some point? 

I find it ridiculous that they think this is fine. We've been doing it this way for decades and it's part of many people's workflow.

I work in animation and I edit frames in sequences on many occations.

 

Really dissapointed with Adobe's lack of listening to their users.

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Jul 27, 2020 Jul 27, 2020

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I found a workaround by accident - not sure if this was intended by Adobe, but once discovered, this made this process a LOT easier:

 

On a Mac:

 

+ click on 'Save As' as normal to save your file.

+ when the file save dialog box appears, right click on the name of the file (all still within the file save as dialog box) you want to overwrite

+ a small dialog box appears which has the option "Move to Bin", which you can select to remove your old copy

+ click the Save button in the file dialog box, and the file gets saved with the intended filename

 

I can live with this, but not sure if Adobe intended this, or if it's just a happy co-incidence. If they intend this behaviour, then why?

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Explorer ,
Jul 29, 2020 Jul 29, 2020

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Hey thanks that's a cool workaround... helps to skip the whole navigate-to-file-delete-then-rename-new-file exercise 😛

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