Can I use Elements 2025 without AI?

[iwaddo77]

Hi

I was thinking on purchasing Elements 2025 and wanted to ask whether it is possible to not use the AI features?

Images that I edit for submission into competitions must not contain any pixels other than my own, so this rules out any generative AI.

Can someone please explain whether AI can be disabled or avoided in Elements 2025.

Thank you for your help

[Peru Bob]

Disabling Adobe's AI Features:

1. Go to Adobe Account Privacy Settings: Access your Adobe account's privacy settings. 
2. Disable Content Analysis: Locate the "Content analysis" setting and turn it off. This will prevent Adobe from using your artwork to train their AI models. 
3. Opt-out of AI Assistant: You can also disable the AI Assistant in some Adobe products by going to Preferences and selecting "Disable AI Assistant". 

[iwaddo77]

Thank you, yes I expected it was.

In Photoshop there are options to not use AI for generative tasks like remove and expand, so I was hoping such options were available in Elements. Is there any configuration possible?

Thank you for your help

[Greg_S.]

There is no setting to avoid AI from being used.  It's not clear from your post what your competition rules allow.  For example, if you are using the Clone Tool to replace target pixels with source pixels, you are using your own pixels (if your source is a photo you have taken).  Similarly, if you use Content Aware options to fill in a selected area, some would say that AI is involved in the analysis of the selection and the replacement pixels.

So, do the competition rules only allow you to edit tone and color and to crop the image?  If so, those are the only tools you should use.

[iwaddo77]

It is an interesting and onging debate but the main thread is that all the pixels in an image must be the photographers.

The use of AI for selecting and masking is allowed, the use of AI to generate new pixels, replace existing pixels with pixels from others is not.

Selecting a Sky and replacing it with your own image is allowed. Using an image of another is not.

Content Aware tools are allowed if they are only using existing pixels.

So to a new photographer choosing to use Elements 2025 is it clear which tools use AI to generate and add new pixels so those tools can be avoided? 

Thank you for your help

[Greg_S.]

I don't know of any way to determine whether Elements is using AI in any particular tool.  I just think it requires some common sense, both in the selection of a tool and in the interpretation of the competion's rules.

[Glenn 8675309]

I would have to agree with greg:  common sense is the rule to follow.   For example:  PSE used to call AI "Adobe Sensi" Some AI  tools are used in many of the guided edits.   Guided edits are nothing more than a series of actions (various edits) that are automated for you.  You could say the the new remove tool uses AI (I really think it's just a small of actions involving cloning of nearby pixels- but it works really well.  

A problem with using AI is that in many cases you cannot tell that AI was used. 


I edited this image in photoshop.  I challenge anyone to tell me what I did to the photo.  Somethings that AI can do is quite remarkable.

1.  I changed the road- the original was paved. (Using the generative fill tool)
2. I added the fence. (using the generative fill tool in photoshop)
3. I removed some distractions off in the distance.  I used the remove tool (Which works a bit  better than the remove tool in Photoshop. 





 

[iwaddo77]

I also agree with Greg.

In many ways the rules have not changed. Every pixel in an image must have been captured by the club member, has applied to composites for years.

Now, the new bit is really for clarity. Editing tools which use AI to generate new pixels which have not been captured by the member must not be used.

Common sense and integrity are the way forward.

Policing the rules is another matter.

It would of course be easier if these applications had a big switch, a setting, which would disable all generative AI. This can of course be achieved by discconecting from the internet 🙂

Thank you for your help.

[iwaddo77]

PS, is it just me or is this forum sending updates to me when I reply, can this be turned off?

[Peru Bob]

No, and no, unless you turn off all notifications.

[Greg_S.]

@iwaddo77 said:
It would of course be easier if these applications had a big switch, a setting, which would disable all generative AI. This can of course be achieved by discconecting from the internet

Disconnecting from the internet won't stop Generative AI.  A number of applications download the AI models to your local hard drive and are applied from there.  I don't know about Elements, but CC has that option.  A popular plug-in that I use frequently updates the AI models to my hard drive.  That same software allows you to buy "credits" that can be used to perform the AI calculations online which supposedly provides faster generative results.

[iwaddo77]

Is there really no escape!!!?