Elements 18 not rendering High Quality images

[flounderpumpkin]

I am having troubles with Elements 18... Whenever I open a high quality image, it appears to have jagged (edgy) pixels... When opened in "Camera Raw" it looks flawless but after opening to Elements 18 the image looks rough again... Any help?

The files always save perfectly with no errors, but when uploaded they look terrible.

I have included some images as examples for my lack of words... This happens with every high quality photo, not only simple logos.

[Jeff Arola]

After you open the image from camera raw view it at 100% view (actual pixels) by double clicking on the Zoom Tool in the toolbox and see if they look any better.

or the menu View>Actual Pixels.

[flounderpumpkin]

I've used the magnifying glass tool a few times, but my alt+scroll surely does not make any changes...

[Jeff Arola]

How does the text look at 100% view?

[flounderpumpkin]

Jagged / edgy

Text created in Elements ooks fine, but images with text uploaded into Elements does not look good

[Jeff Arola]

If you have one of those files that you haven't opened using camera raw, just try File>Open in photoshop elements and see how the text looks?

[MichelBParis]

For me, your "High quality images" are very low resolution. That shows because you are showing them as nearly 100% in both screenshots, and they cover only a part of your screen.

Also, the png format is not a vector format. You are not seeing vector text, you are seeing pixelized text to begin with. I don't see the point of opening .png files in the ACR raw editor.

[flounderpumpkin]

I can provide image proof of this issue occurring with .gif and .jpeg files as well... but this issue still occurs either way... Also,the farther I zoom out the more jagged the image becomes.

Jeff Arola the same issue occurs

[flounderpumpkin]

This photo was taken with an image opened just from my files / without "camera raw"

[MichelBParis]

This image has been reduced to 10.4% and it's about a quarter of your screen width (1366 pixels).That means about 3400 pixels for the original image, so it's a high quality image and it should look very fine at 100% pixel view or even at 50%, 25% or 12,5%.

Tip: to see the image at 100% pixel view, double click on the magnifier tool in the tool palette.

Your display resolution of 1366 pixel is ok, but with a good eyesight, you might be able to distinguich individual pixels.

[flounderpumpkin]

Even at 100 it has an edgyness... I believe the problem is that Elements 18 cannot support 16-bit color

[MichelBParis]

  wrote

Even at 100 it has an edgyness... I believe the problem is that Elements 18 cannot support 16-bit color

[MichelBParis]

MichelBParis  wrote

flounderpumpkin   wrote

Even at 100 it has an edgyness... I believe the problem is that Elements 18 cannot support 16-bit color

1 - Your image is already slightly pixelated, but only in the diagonal edges where the background has been masked; any software will display it as such in any display at 100%. Could you show the original with the background?

2 - Elements (all versions) does support 16 bits, but not on layers and with a number of tools.

3 - pixelization has nothing to do with bit depth. What is important is the number of pixels. Not the number of colors a pixel is able to display.

[flounderpumpkin]

I'm uploading photos, and though it does not allow me to import 16 bit photos, the photos look stellar only at 100%. Zooming in or out any tenth of a percent distorts or fuzzies the image quite noticeably.

[MichelBParis]

flounderpumpkin  wrote

I'm uploading photos, and though it does not allow me to import 16 bit photos, the photos look stellar only at 100%. Zooming in or out any tenth of a percent distorts or fuzzies the image quite noticeably.

16-bits depth photo have nothing to do with pixelisation, only about color.

If you try to print your last image, you won't see any pixelisation on a normal paper size (A4).

Keep in mind that if you look at it on your display (only 1366 pixels wide) :

- with 100% zoom, you'll only see 1366 from 3400 (the full image would be more than 3 times wider in inches than your display). At normal viewing distance, the pixellisation would not be visible. (I still think your image has inherited pixelisation from removing the background).

- with 'fit in screen', you'll see the 3400 pixels compressed into 1366. The algorithms to compress the image are optimized for very fast zooming variations, only 100%, 50% or 25 % are optimized. So, yes, slight zooming variations should be visible as you have seen, especially if your display is about the common 17" size.

Note about 16-bit depth file formats: jpeg does not support this, only tiff, psd, png.