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I CANNOT do incremental back up PE 2020

Participant ,
Feb 18, 2025 Feb 18, 2025

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Hi,

I can no longer do an incremental backup in PE 2020.

 

When I try I get that screen:

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I should NOT have to specify a previous backup file.

 

Can someone help?

 

Thanks in advance

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Feb 18, 2025 Feb 18, 2025

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@YvesB said:  I should NOT have to specify a previous backup file.

Why not?  You have to tell the program where the prior backup exists so that you can create the incremental backup.  See this HelpX article.

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Feb 28, 2025 Feb 28, 2025

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Hi,

 

Sorry for the delay in responding.

 

I wish to do Incremental Backups after I add pictures to my Organizer. It takes less time. Complete backups take hours.

 

Note there is NO instruction in the manual for incremental backup. The manual refers to 2018 Organizer.

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Watch the following screenshots

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This is an attempt of an Increment backup

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This is the selected destination

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Destination not valid for incremental backup. I don't know why

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This is the "tly" file I wish to use for increment backup

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Not allowed message for incremental backup to "tly" file.

 

Can you help me further? I think version 2025 is bugged.

 

Thanks in advance

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Feb 28, 2025 Feb 28, 2025

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It is not entirely clear to me from your screenshots what you have done.  It looks like you have two different version catalogs that have been backed up.   Is that the case?

Are your catalogs named Catalog 2020 and Catalog 2025 or is that just a location folder for your backups?  I note that you have two folders named Catalog 2020.  One is a sub-folder of the D:\Catalog 2025\ folder.

Which of the folders contain a file named catalog.pse25db?

Which of the folders contain a file named catalog.pse18db?  (I am assuming that your prior version of Elements was Elements 2020.  If it was Elements 2022, then look for files named catalog.pse20db.)

Are the CIB Catalog and PE Catalog sub-folders your names for catalog folders, backup folder or something else?

 

Do a Windows search for all .tly files and show us a screenshot of the results.  (I recommend using a free file-search utility called Everything.  It is very fast and more flexible than a Windows search.)

 

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Mar 01, 2025 Mar 01, 2025

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Hi

Note that I have 2 different catalogs. My old PE2020 catalog and new PE2025 catalog.

 

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My "D:\Catalog2025\Backup" folder contains my "tly" file where my backup is stored.

 

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My "catalog.pse25db" is present in the following locations

 

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My "catalog.pse18db" is present in the following locationsScreenshot 2025-03-01 130040.pngexpand image

 

I have no "catalog.pse20db" file

The CIB Catalog is a temporary/test catalog

Note also that I tried the convert my old PE2020 catalog, but it didn't work. My picture's tag never transferred.

 

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Please slide to the right to view

 

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I am just trying to do an Incremental Backup of my PE2025 Catalog to my PE2025 Backup where the "TLY" file is present: "D:\Catalog2025\Backup".

 

Regards

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Mar 03, 2025 Mar 03, 2025

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I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what has happened here.  I note that you have 2 Elements 2025 database files of similar size located in two different directories - one of which appears to be your Elements 2020 catalog directory.

 

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I am guessing that you have placed the Elements 2025 backup files into the Elements 2020 catalog folder.  Perhaps you have a better explanation?

 

After re-reading your original post, I am also confused about whether you are trying to do an incremental backup of your 2020 catalog or your 2025 catalog (or both).  Whatever your response, I think my suggestion will be to create a new full backup of the catalog and make sure that the backup is created in an entirely separate folder structure.  Each incremental backup should then be placed in a new folder.

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Mar 04, 2025 Mar 04, 2025

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Hi Greg,

 

I have PE2018 and PE2025 installed on my PC. I have a catalog for each one of them.

 

I have not deleted the PE2018 catalog because it contains Keyword tags I don't want to loose. Despite I use Convert in PE2025 "Manage Catalog, Keyword tags are NOT imported.

 

All I am trying to do is an Incremental Backup of my PE2025 catalog in "D:\Catalog2025\Backup" folder where my "Backup.tly" and "catalog.buc" files are located.

 

In an Incremental you should have to specify only the target folder location. When I do that I am reported a Backup already exists and ask if I want to overwrite it. If I click YES it will do a complete backup that will take hours. I don't want that. I want to do an Incremental backup that takes minutes.

 

If you need more info, don't hesitate to get back to me.

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Thanks

 

 

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Mar 04, 2025 Mar 04, 2025

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Place the Incremental Backup in a different folder.  You should then be asked where is the original backup folder.

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