Import von S/W-NEF Dateien

[Cristina302971803wig]

In S/W fotografierte NEF Bilder werden beim Import in Photoshop Elements 23 automatisch farbig angezeigt.

Importiere ich die gleichen Dateien mit der Nikon Transfer Utility, bleiben sie S/W will ich sie dann mit Elements bearbeiten werden sie wieder farbig (!!!) Ich müsste sie mit der Nikon Software bearbeiten damit sie wie aufgenommen S/W bleiben.

Das heisst, wenn ich in RAW mit Verwendung von Effekten fotografiere, diese von Elements nicht übernommen werden. Nur wenn ich in JPG abspeichere werden auch die Effekte übernommen. Da ich auf gute Druckqualität wert lege, fotografiere ich aber grundsätzlich in RAW.

Das ist meiner Ansicht nach ein Fehler von Elements, der hoffentlich in einem nächsten Update behoben wird.

Oder hat jemand eine Idee wie ich die NEF mitsamt Effekten in Elements importieren kann?

[Greg_S.]

I have updated my ACR in Elements 2023 to 15.3 (using a workaround), but I believe you should see the same with the released version of ACR 14.x.  In the right-hand panel, you will see a dropdown menu for profiles.  If you click on the Browse option at the bottom of the list, a number of collapsed option profiles will appear including some for Black and White which is shown in my screenshot:

Does this give you what you want?

[MichelBParis]

Greg is right that there is no difference in the Camera Raw dialog on Windows 10 and ACR 14.4.

That's the simplest way to be guided to many variations of conversions to black and white.

From the online help called from the ACR dialog help icon:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/processing-camera-raw-image-files.html#main-pars_he...

Keep in mind that:

1 - your camera provides "raw" data (photo sites light intensity, not colours) filtered through an array of colour filters. That raw data has potential ability to recreate colours after conversion according to your choices. Unless you are using custom-made camera sensors, you always shoot raw for colour output. There is no Black/White raw NEF file, there is a common raw file which can be processed in either way.

2 - You can always "remove" colour from a file in any photo (not raw) format. That's the process which is being used to get black and white output from a raw file. The raw data is first processed into a virtual colour image, which is converted to black and white. The Nikon software uses your choice of style and directly shows a converted version, the ACR version needs you to tell which possible style you want (as shown by Greg).

Note that you can convert any image to black and white in the main editing dialog by pushing back the saturation slider to zero to the left.

[Jeff Arola]

In Nikon Studio NX you can see what settings were used for Picture Control as in the example below

MONOCHROME with an Orange filter was used.

Then in Adobe Camera Raw under Profiles go to Camera Matching and pick the relevant one such as O for Orange.

[Jeff Arola]

If there is some Picture Control you have loaded, for example, the NEOPAN from this website

that is not easily replicated in camera raw

https://nikonpc.com/

Then you can transfer over a TIF file from the Nikon software to the photoshop elements editor