Organizer jumps to top after editing?

[tntyz85]

New Elements 2018 user here. Whenever I edit a photo and then save it, Organizer resets my position back to the top of the catalog. This is annoying since I'm going back to work on photos taken a decade ago. How can this behavior be changed?

[MichelBParis]

tntyz85  wrote

New Elements 2018 user here. Whenever I edit a photo and then save it, Organizer resets my position back to the top of the catalog. This is annoying since I'm going back to work on photos taken a decade ago. How can this behavior be changed?

In the past, I have seen a few complaints about similar behaviour... but I have never been able to reproduce this. I highlight a file in the organizer, open it the editor and save it, and I am still in the same organizer page display with the same image selected.

Could you provide a screenshot of your organizer display (with left folder panel open) before and after the saving of the edit?

- use the Print screen key of your keyboard

- in the editor, menu File >> new >> From clipboard, and save

- when answering in this forum (not from mail), use the 7th button on the top tool bar and insert the screenshot file.

[tntyz85]

Here is how I can reproduce the behavior:

1. Browsing photos in the grid view
2. Double-click on a selected photo to view
3. Right-click and select edit
4. Edit the photo
5. Exit the Editor (by selected X in the upper-right corner)
6. Save when prompted to do so
7. After the dialog ends, I am taken back to the Organizer. The photo I had selected appears with the "edit in progress" warning. The warning disappears and then the Organizer takes me to the very first photo in the catalog.

I experimented with other flows, all of which kept my location in the Organizer.

• Select the photo from the grid view, but don't "maximize" it first.
• While in Editor, File -> Save. Then close Editor.

No screen shots included in my reply. The folder tree didn't change at all during the process see I didn't see it as relevant. I can repeat with screenshots if anyone feels this is really necessary.

Thanks for any help you can offer. Seems easiest for me to simply change my process for select/edit/save. This is a holdover habit from using a prior version (PSE 9?).

[MichelBParis]

Reading your detailed workflow, I first thought that the significant fact was that you maximized the zoom before sending to the editor.

Unfortunately, I still can't reproduce the problem.

- I edit the file in the editor

- I save it (nearly always in a version set)

- I close the file (not the editor)

- I click on the organizer icon...

and I am back in the same maximized view of the file or it's edited version.

If I zoom out the maximized view, the edited file stays on the first row. No going back to the top of the selection.

I did not find any difference if I had no selection, a selection, a folder or album selection; no difference with different 'sort orders'.

[tntyz85]

I believe the difference is in the third step you mention (close the file, not the editor). I had been closing the editor at which point it would prompt me to save the file (which I did). See my steps 5 and 6.

Actually, the workflow I outlined above is a little silly since I end up having to launch the Editor with each photo edit I do. Simply closing the photo and leaving the editor open is a much better flow.

[cz35895897]

Hah! Been there done that. My only workaround is to have the organizer be sorted by name. This seems to keep it in place after the editing session is over. The behavior is not consistent though. Sometimes when I use the tags panel and back out of them, the organizer will jump to the top as well. Sometimes not. It appears that using the back button and using the Esc key is not consistent as to its action, sometimes one is preferred sometimes the other.

[MichelBParis]

cz35895897  wrote

Sometimes when I use the tags panel and back out of them, the organizer will jump to the top as well.

??? That's exactly what is expected. When you back out of the tags panel, that means you want to disable viewing that selection.

My only workaround is to have the organizer be sorted by name.

As I said before, changing the sort order does not change anything for me. Could you provide a detailed workflow like tntyz85 ?

[Little_Pale_Face]

Hi,

I can get the fault to occur if I start in album view, double click on a JPG and then right click on the enlarged image to select edit. After closing the edit the image changes back to the first in the album.

It seems to be triggered by right clicking on the enlarged image.

Brian

[MichelBParis]

Little_Pale_Face  wrote

Hi,

I can get the fault to occur if I start in album view, double click on a JPG and then right click on the enlarged image to select edit. After closing the edit the image changes back to the first in the album.

It seems to be triggered by right clicking on the enlarged image.

Brian

Does not work like that for me. After closing the edit, I am back to the same maximized view of the edited file (or its version set). When zooming out, the thumbnail still has the focus.

This is with PSE 2018 on Windows 10. I'll have to try with older versions.

[cz35895897]

Michel, Its a procedure when I date unknown photos based on similar content. I display all photos that MAY have a similar date by using tags. If I dont find a useful reference I clear the tag and hope to find another reference point. I want the focus to stay on the original, unknown date photo. Unfortunately the selection and location in the Organizer is cleared.

Same thing happens when I use visual search to locate another reference. If I dont find it and back out of the search, the original selection is cleared. This may very well be as intended, as you point out. However it would be more useful at least for me to have the selection, and position in the catalog be more sticky as you jump between tags, search, and details screens.

PS the visual search seems to be biased based on the "original date" of the photo. On more than one occasion I had high% match and stack suggestions based on nothing more apparent than similar dates. When you are dealing with 100's of unknown date photos that you are trying to date having them come up as a match because they were scanned in on the same date is not helpful.