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PSE 2023 - Camera Raw

Community Beginner ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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Using PSE 2023, Mac OS 15.1.1 M3Max CPU with 32 GB RAM

I have a 3.3GB .tiff panorama file from Photoshop from a colleague. I try to open it in PSE and I get message:

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I have previously installed Camera Raw, but I now do it again, with following result:

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I try to open pano file via "FILE > Open in Camera Raw"

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and I again get message:

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How do I make this work properly instead of being locked into this loop?

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Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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What camera/smartphone did your colleague use to create the raw file?

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Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Camera is Canon 90D with 70-300 Zoom lens; in this case images taken at 200mm

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Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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I didn't read your post closely enough.   The file is a tiff file?  What are the pixel dimensions?

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Pixel dimensions are: 50,941 x 21,577 [i.e., 1,099 MP]

I stitch large numbers [here N=61] of high-quality images into macro-panoramas to document & archive archaeological records of native rock art. I am ususally able to capture whaat I need within 500-600MP, which PSE does not seem to choke on.  But I have two much wider panels I want to preserve the high-definition in.

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Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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The max size is 30,000 x 30,000 even for photoshop.  That's your problem. 

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Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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If in Photoshop Elements you go to Adobe Photoshop Elements 2023 Editor>About Plug-in>Camera Raw, what Version does it say?

 

What if you just use File>Open instead opf Open in Camera Raw?

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Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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The solution I posted below will not work in this case :  the image pixel size is too large for PSE, even too large for Photoshop.

If you haven't been able to update the Camera Raw plug-in for Elements, follow these steps, Primarily because your new camera needs a newer version of ACR to support RAW files:

Download and install the latest Camera Raw version from https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html

Quit all Adobe applications.

On macOS, double-click the .dmg file to mount it.

On Windows double-click the downloaded .zip file to unzip it.
(Windows might unzip the file for you.)

 

On macOS, double-click the .pkg file to start the installer. 

On Windows, double-click the resulting .exe file to start the installer.


Follow the on-screen instructions.

 Once installed successfully, close the installer window.

 Navigate to the following folder:
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On macOS: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/CC/File Formats

Copy the Camera Raw plug-in (just the .8bi file) from the CC > File Formats folder that is mentioned in the above step.

Navigate to the following folder: 

On macOS: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/Elements<Version Number>/File Formats


Replace the existing Camera Raw plugin in Elements<Version Number> folder with the plug-in that you copied earlier.


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Community Beginner ,
Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Glenn 8675309 Thanks for your replies. I saw those instructions a couple of days ago, buried more than a little a bit in the Adobe web site.

I am using PSE 2023.

I easily found the Library>Application Support>Adobe>Plug-ins>CC>File Formats folder and it contained a single file "Camera Raw.plugin"

 

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I could not affirmatively determine if this was an ".8bi" file or not. [Given its location I leaned toward thinking that it was.]

Furthermore, I did not find an "Elements 23" folder at all.

So I stopped until I re-read your post, and then looked more closely at the "About Photoshop Elements" screen, on which in small print PSE23 is also referred to as 21.0.

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I thought that Adobe had ceased the -2 steps nomenclature, but I guess not.

 

After I copied and pasted the newer plug-in file, it seems the Camera Raw.plugin function works,

 

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enabling my opening some big files. But many do not open 'no-how/no-way'. I suspect this is a pixel width limitation.

As I noted in another post here, one of my 'middle-size' files is a 61-image pano output from PanoramaStudio4, resulting in a pano image 50,941x21577 [1,099MP].

The developer of PanoramaStudio4 separately emailed me that PSE has a 30.000-pixel limit, but he seemed to think that PS did not. So far, I've not been able to empirically test either limit.

 

At this point I think I will try the PS 7-day-trial version to see if it offers any greater actual functionality for my purposes. Many thanks to all who read and replied to my perplexity.

John

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Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Photoshop has a 300,000 x 300,000 px limit for many file formats that support it including Tiff.

Tiff files also have a 4 GB file size limitation

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/image-size-resolution.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/file-formats.html

 

I believe Camera Raw has a max pixel size of 65,000

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