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PSE is saving my 17.3MB RAW file as very small 5.33MB Tiff and a 563 KB files

Community Beginner ,
Feb 07, 2024 Feb 07, 2024

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Long time PSE user here but have never had this problem.  
After I edit a photo, I always save as a TIFF file and a JPEG.  Suddenly, PSE is saving my work as incredibly small files.  The image I am currently working on is a 17.3MB RAW file. After editing it very slightly, PSE is saving it as a 5.33MB TIFF and a 563 KB jpeg.  On the TIFF options, I have "None" for Image compresion. For the jpeg, I always choose Quality 12, Maximum, Large file, but it is saving it as such a tiny file!

 

I have not knowingly made any changes to PSE. I have used PSE weekly for years and know how big my images should be based on what I do to edit them, but something has changed because the file sizes that PSE is saving them to is unacceptable. Any suggestions for a fix would be greatly appreciated!

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Feb 07, 2024 Feb 07, 2024

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What version of photoshop elements and operating system are you using?

 

If you reopen both the JPEG and TIFF files and go to Image>Resize>Image Size are the Pixel Dimensions the same as the original raw file?

 

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Feb 08, 2024 Feb 08, 2024

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Thank you, Jeff, for the followup. It seems to have something to do with the crop tool because this is what I am finding:

Original RAW file: 17.3MB  3670x5496

 

If I open the Raw file and just save it, with no changes, the result is:

Tiff:  57.1MB  3648x5472   300ppi

Jpeg:  7.8MB 3648x5472   300ppi

 

But if I barely crop it, at 300 ppi, I get small files. (See Screenshot 379 to see crop)

Tiff: 6.21MB 1200x1800

JPeg:  914KB 1200x1800

 

Same crop at 600ppi, I get:

Tiff:  24.7MB 2400x3600

JPeg 3.5MB 2400x3600

 

BUT.......... If I perform essentially the same crop in at 300ppi DXO Photo Lab (see Screenshot 380), I get:

Tiff:  49.4MB  3885x5077

Jpeg:  14MB  3885x5077

 

Why is PSE reducing the size of my cropped image so much?  It did not used to do this and I did not change anything on purpose.  Any help would be appreciated as PSE is my main editing starting point and I'd rather not change, but this issue makes PSE an non-starter for me.  Thanks again for your help!

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Feb 08, 2024 Feb 08, 2024

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Hello

I just got Elements 2024 and when I import my raw file it makes it into a Dmxci?? something like that. If I import raw I expect it to stay raw until I edit and export it as a jpeg but what I haven't edited should stay a raw file. This is not going good so  far. I call for help and Nikle wasnt interested to help. I called back and when I mention I spoke to him early he hung up. I called back and he hung up  again.

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Feb 09, 2024 Feb 09, 2024

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Indeed, it's merely the cropping which explains the pixel size difference.

Your original file is 5472 pixels in width, which provides a fine printing size at 300 ppi for 5472 / 300 = 18.24 inches. That's 912 ppi.

If you decide to crop in the pixel editor (you are not cropping in the ACR conversion module of Elements) then to get 300 ppi for a printing size of only 6 inch you only need 300 x 6 = 1800 pixels.

With raw files and the ACR converter you have the opportunity to crop non destructively and in batch before sending the result to the pixel editor for resampling (to the printing size). The cropped part is sent to the editor withour any up/downsizing, and the editor sends the result to the printing engine which does the resizing.

 

 

 

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Than you Michael

I appreciate the explanation.

Phyllis

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 08, 2024 Feb 08, 2024

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Jeff, in my response to your question, I neglected to state that I am using PSE 2023 and Windows 10.

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