Adding Place Tags without using the map

[mike1jn]

I have a long history of using Photoshop Elements (now using Vn 15) and I have many many

place tags set up using earlier versions.

Every time I try to add a place tag in Vn 15, I get presented with a world map.

Often, the place I want to tag is not included on the map.

How can I go back to the old system of adding a place tag without being restricted to what is on

the map?

getting pretty frustrated!

Thanks for any help

Mike

[MichelBParis]

mike1jn  wrote

I have a long history of using Photoshop Elements (now using Vn 15) and I have many many

place tags set up using earlier versions.

Every time I try to add a place tag in Vn 15, I get presented with a world map.

Often, the place I want to tag is not included on the map.

How can I go back to the old system of adding a place tag without being restricted to what is on

the map?

getting pretty frustrated!

Thanks for any help

Mike

Mike,

Create your own 'My Places' category in the normal media tags like you did before.

You can create your own tags and your own sub-categories hierarchy.

[mike1jn]

Thanks very much for the reply Michel.

Sounds like just what I'm looking for, but I don't see where I can do this.

All of my previously created places are listed alphabetically in the Places Tags.

Can I just add new places in the same place where my old tags are,

or do I need to create some new place for them?

Thanks for your help

Mike

[MichelBParis]

mike1jn  wrote

Can I just add new places in the same place where my old tags are,

or do I need to create some new place for them?

Yes, you create a new category under the 'Keywords' section (downpointing triangle sign on the right of the word 'Keywords'), you choose to create a category from the drop-down menu, like 'My Places'. I have personal categories like 'animals', 'food', 'scans'...

[mike1jn]

Thanks Michel.

I can certainly do that OK. I have some other categories already.

But it seems strange that I can't add new places under the Places Tag

alongside all the other places I have built up over the years.

Surely, I can add a new place in the Places Tag list without bothering with the map?

I can see the map as an option which may be helpful to some,

but not to be able to choose to use the old tags without help from a map

seems really unfriendly.

Is it not possible then to add places under the Places Tag without involving the map?

Mike

[MichelBParis]

mike1jn  wrote

Is it not possible then to add places under the Places Tag without involving the map?

Mike

Yes, with Elements 14 I can click on the Places icon on the bottom bar, type a place location and validate the choice from the suggested ones. That choice is useable for searches even if you can't display the map.

[mike1jn]

Thanks again Michel, but I'm clearly NOT going to be able to do what I want.

I have been using versions of PSE for at least 17 years, and I have accumulated over 43,000 images

and have several hundred place tags. Almost all of these place tags existed before Adobe introduced

the new way of defining places using the map. They are listed alphabetically under Places Tags on the right

side of the window.

I have been forced to create a few new tags using the map, and these appear under the old tags

in a single entry which has a hierarchy of places starting with UK then England then town names.

What I wanted to do was to be able to create new place tags which would appear in the alphabetical set

that I have always had. I'm pretty sure now that this is no longer possible. The ONLY way of creating

a NEW place tag (i.e. for a place that I have not used for a tag before) is through the Map method.

I have decided that my best way forward is to use the new map method. But I am frustrated by it.

For example, very often the place I want to use is not listed in the places known to the map,

and I don't know how to define such a new place tag. What do I do if the place is not found by the map search?

Another example of my frustration is that, when I type in a place name in the "search for a location" window

in the map window, it assumes, by default, that I am living in the USA. For example, I want to go to Bristol in the UK.

I type "Bristol" and it lists 4 possible "Bristol"s, ALL of them in the USA and doesn't suggest ANY Bristol in the UK.

Google maps doesn't have that problem, probably because it has worked out where I am based.

Is there a way of telling the map that it should suggest places close to where I am based as a starting point?

Thanks again for your help

If you could recommend a good source for training myself in using place tags that would be great.

Mike

[MichelBParis]

Mike,

Sorry, I started like you with 'normal' places tags before PSE11 automatically converted them to allow the connexion with Google Maps; to avoid that conversion, I did take care to rename my 'People', 'Places' and 'Events' so that the conversion was not performed. I am still on the old way... and very happy.

I have also tried the new Places system, for the fun. Not bad for me, but not necessary. I am not bothered to have a dual system at the same time depending on my needs. I can mix both criteria when I need to do a search. The new advanced search tool since PSE15 is really great for that. So, I'll leave more competent users suggest the best ways to use the feature.

I am surprised you can't find "Bristol" in the UK; when I type "Paris" they suggest ... France or Texas!

[mike1jn]

OK Michel. I have been experimenting with the new map method of adding Places Tags, and have decided it's not for me. It is so clumsy compared with the old method. I have now decided to go with your original suggestion of creating a new Keyword Category named "My Places" and using this for tags that would have gone into Places Tags in the old manner.

I am now transferring the newer place tags that I have struggled to create with the map to my new keyword tag "My Places" and then deleting the places tag created using the map.

I am very happy with this solution even though I now have some places under the old Places Tags and some places under My Places. There are WAY too many of the old place tags to transfer them all to My Places, but only a much smaller number I have created using the map. Not perfect, but definitely better than struggling with the map for me.

Thanks for all your time and trouble.

I have also discovered the new search function after you mentioned it. A very small blue icon at the top right of the screen. Very helpful. How do you find these things? I could have gone years without finding that!