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Hi,

with the new Photoshop CC 2018 I can't make eraser from last brush used.

I have lots of tpl tools.

For example - I use one of my tpl brushes with some settings and then I need same eraser - same shape, same settings.

But when I choose eraser and last brush used - eraser switches to brush.

It's impossible to work like this 😕

Is there a way to turn of this automatic tool change?

Please help

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Correct answer by davescm | Adobe Community Professional

There is no fix as it is not broken but working the way Adobe designed it.

In the new version of Photoshop brushes can be saved with or without tool presets i.e. a brush can be saved with or without the associated tool and tool settings. When you, or a brush designer, defines a brush the choice to include the tool presets is made at that stage.

To see which have tool settings and which have not, in the brushes panel, go to the options at the top right and check " show additional preset info"

A small icon will appear next to those brushes that have a tool settings saved with them

If you want to use a brush that is defined to use one tool, with another range of tools then you need to select the brush then choose "New Brush Preset" at the top of the menu, then in the dialogue give the brush a new name and uncheck "Include tool settings". You will now have a copy without it being tied to a particular tool.

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Can't make eraser from last brush used

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Hi,

with the new Photoshop CC 2018 I can't make eraser from last brush used.

I have lots of tpl tools.

For example - I use one of my tpl brushes with some settings and then I need same eraser - same shape, same settings.

But when I choose eraser and last brush used - eraser switches to brush.

It's impossible to work like this 😕

Is there a way to turn of this automatic tool change?

Please help

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Correct answer by davescm | Adobe Community Professional

There is no fix as it is not broken but working the way Adobe designed it.

In the new version of Photoshop brushes can be saved with or without tool presets i.e. a brush can be saved with or without the associated tool and tool settings. When you, or a brush designer, defines a brush the choice to include the tool presets is made at that stage.

To see which have tool settings and which have not, in the brushes panel, go to the options at the top right and check " show additional preset info"

A small icon will appear next to those brushes that have a tool settings saved with them

If you want to use a brush that is defined to use one tool, with another range of tools then you need to select the brush then choose "New Brush Preset" at the top of the menu, then in the dialogue give the brush a new name and uncheck "Include tool settings". You will now have a copy without it being tied to a particular tool.

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Currently the MRU in Brushes retain the tool association if there is one, from the Tool Preset or a Brush Preset saved with Tool Settings. A work around would be to switch the Blend mode to Clear to use the same brush with erasing behavior. (option/alt + shift + r)

selecting the brush or MRU again will return the tool to the previous blend mode. (option/alt+n sets to Normal as well)

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Oct 19, 2017 3
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Thank You - that helped for now. Will there be an option in the future to make it the way it always was?

All the best - and I really love this smoothing brush option!

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Oct 19, 2017 8
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Please make it the way it was, I'm thinking of going back a version just for this, it was immensely helpful.

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Oct 20, 2017 21
Community Beginner ,
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Yes, I'm finding this change really frustrating too

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Oct 21, 2017 19
Community Beginner ,
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Thanks for the workaround. Using the term workaround acknowledges this is a problem, interrupting users' work flow, a change that adds no benefits. Please pass along the general disgust with this needless change, this step backwards. Thanks again!

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Are they going to make an option for this thats less time consuming and annoying to work with!? I regret this update...

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Same here, I also would love to get the old behavior back.

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Oct 21, 2017 12
Community Beginner ,
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Redo the brush preset, but when you do, unclick where it says 'preserve settings'.

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Oct 21, 2017 2
Community Beginner ,
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Thanks for the tip. Any idea how to apply this on whole brush sets like the new ones from Kyle T Webster?

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Oct 22, 2017 3
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Alas, no. I was just having the same problem as everyone, then realized I could just redo my brush. I haven't used Kyle's brushes, so I assume they all come with the 'brush' preset. Which sucks.

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Agreed - please change this back.  It's incredibly frustrating.

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Any news on this Adobe? Is there a fix in the making?

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Nov 23, 2017 1
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There is no fix as it is not broken but working the way Adobe designed it.

In the new version of Photoshop brushes can be saved with or without tool presets i.e. a brush can be saved with or without the associated tool and tool settings. When you, or a brush designer, defines a brush the choice to include the tool presets is made at that stage.

To see which have tool settings and which have not, in the brushes panel, go to the options at the top right and check " show additional preset info"

A small icon will appear next to those brushes that have a tool settings saved with them

If you want to use a brush that is defined to use one tool, with another range of tools then you need to select the brush then choose "New Brush Preset" at the top of the menu, then in the dialogue give the brush a new name and uncheck "Include tool settings". You will now have a copy without it being tied to a particular tool.

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Nov 23, 2017 3
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I get that Adobe changed the behavior in the brush library and the tiny icons help a bit. That isn’t my main problem with it.

Whenever I go from the brush tool to the eraser tool and use the brush history (right-click) I see all the brushes I recently used in all tools. When I click on one of those I would want to use that brush shape in my currently selected tool, as it was before the update.

What happens instead is totally unpredictable, as the tiny tool icons are not shown in the brush history. I have no way of knowing if selecting a brush shape from the history will switch my currently active tool, too. So at least this part is broken.

An easy fix would be a button to remove tool settings for a selection of brushes at once. I’m not going to change them one by one for several hundred brushes.

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Nov 23, 2017 11
Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 23, 2017

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You can submit a feature request at the link below :

Photoshop Family Customer Community

Dave

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I just did. The request is for "an easy-to-access checkbox that allows the user to either use brushes' tool presets or apply the brush to the selected tool." Vote for it here: Brush presets: Can't change the tool (presets locked to a particular tool) | Photoshop Family Custom...

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i commented on this at the link above.  This change has really messed up my workflow!  I love Kyle's brushes, but if I can't switch the brush to a mixer brush or eraser or smudge brush,  there's a huge amount of functionality just... gone.  I *could* spend an insane amount of time trying to recreate the brushes without the preset box checked... but come on!  

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It annoys the hell out of me too.

Here's where Adobe merged the conversation from above - I commented to your checkbox proposal there.

CC2018: Selected a brush but instead it changed to a tool | Photoshop Family Customer Community

Let's talk to the devs there too and hope they revise this feature asap.

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Dec 13, 2017 4
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This does not seem to work for me. When I try, my eraser tool turns into a paintbrush, I want the paintbrush to have the option of being an eraser. You say this is the way Adobe intended it to work, and I've seen many in this thread want it back the way it was ... easy, functional, increased production ... In my opinion, they took a good thing away from users. I'm about giving up on PS, and will be looking for other options, or going back to a much older version where tools were accesible and responded. I'm just not smart enough to re-set up all of the pallets of brushes. Very frustrating. In one of my convos with Adobe, they told me it was a software bug. I know mine does not work. I also have to re-set prefs with IL if I want to use my tablet and pressure sensitive brushes. That means a re-start with IL everytime I want pressure sensitive brushes. Another bug.

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Jan 27, 2019 2
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Hi

As posted in post 20. If you are using version 19.1.0, or later, you can press Ctrl+Alt when clicking on a brush (Cmd+Opt on Mac) and the tool will not change even if the brush has a tool preset saved with it. So any brush can be used with the eraser.
If you then want to save it with a new tool preset just create a new brush preset from the drop down menu at the top right of the brushes panel.

Dave

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Sorry Dave. No go for me. The fix from post 20 does not work. Adobe told me to change the mode of my brush from "normal" to "clear". This works. Not the way I'd like to go about things but it's a workaround I guess to their defective buggy software. Maybe they'll  fix it, maybe not. It difinitely has limited how much I can use PS, and when I do, my production time has tripled which is not efficient. They refunded me a couple months rent $ for my troubles.

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Guys can you tells what specifically you are finding a problem.  If you want to select a preset without changing tools, hold down the Ctrl (Cmd) key.  If you want to know what tool a particular preset has, the turn on all the options in the right click menu.

I find the huge sets from Kyle Webster too unwieldy to be able to find what I am after, so I cherry pick the presets I need, and move to a favourites folder.

The power and convenience of the new management system is wonderful, and it would be a disaster to step back because some people won't take five minutes to learn it.  It's real power comes when making your own presets.  It is so easy and powerful, and I love it.  We can even save both foreground and background colours with a new preset.

There are definitely areas that need improving.  With so many presets, a filter to select by name would be useful.  If I have used enough custom brushes to knock the hard round off the recent list, it irks me that I have to delve into huge folders to retrieve it, so I'd like to be able to set favourites, and not just a favourites folder that we can already do.  I'd like to be able to step through brush groups like we can with File Explorer so we can twirl close a group with a left cursor, rather than having to slowly scroll through 200 presets to get to the group in order to close it, and I hate how slow it is to scroll through the groups.

The development team know about our concerns, and I hope they are working on improving things, but lets make things better, and not step backwards.

Anyway.  Tell us what is causing you difficulty, and I/we will try and help with a solution.

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I know the changes may suit some but they have made the workflow for a whole lot of us unworkable. I have had to go back to using cc 2017. It's not just a case of being too lazy to learn the changes as you imply. There needs to be an option to use the older behaviour for those of us who have built up a workflow over a number of years which is fundamental of how we create our artwork

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This is exactly the problem. I have been drawing and painting in Photoshop for decades. The workflow is unconscious and built-in, I didn't need any additional brush management. Infuriating to have a basic function disappear while I have people paying me to get things done.

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It's a huge problem, it means I can't work in PS any more unless I stick with the 2017 release. I'm very unhappy that something I pay for monthly is now unusable but I can't stop paying because the program woulkdn't work at all then. I've looked at Affinity which is great program but doesn't use textures and patterns as well as PS, so I'm very frustrated

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Feb 22, 2019 1
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JUdy

Brushes can be saved with or without tool presets. If you install a brush with a preset that you always prefer to use without then just resave it without the tool preset.

In the current versions, to temporarily use a brush without its tool preset just hold Ctrl+Alt when loading the brush.

Dave

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Yes, I'm aware of that 'work around' but it doesn't work, several people have said the same. Also I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and am constantly hopping between 'b' and 'e' which no longer works, either it just goes to default erasers. You can't use the keyboard sortcut for an eraser AND Ctrl+Alt, so it adds another step to my workflow. It should have been left as it was or there should be an option to use brushes and erasers as they used to work. I've been using PS as my primary program since the late 1980s and this is the first 'upgrade' that has messed things up so much.

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Feb 22, 2019 1
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You can either save a copy of the brushes you require, without the tool preset which will work today  or you can raise a feature request at the link below:

Photoshop Family Customer Community

Dave

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The tool preset isn't the only issue, it simply isn't possible to switch seamlessly between eraser and brush as it was before

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And now I see, Adobe in their infinite wisdom have now discontinued 2017 completely rather than solving the issue we have. I got this email today -

               Dear Valued Customer, 

                At Adobe, we always strive to deliver more value to our customers, including much requested new features and capabilities, critical bug fixes and security updates. For these reasons we recommend all customers use the latest release of our Creative Cloud applications.            

                We have recently discontinued certain older versions of Creative Cloud applications and as a result, under the terms of our agreement, you are no longer licensed to use them. Based on your preference settings, we are not able to see if you are using any of the discontinued versions. 

                Please be aware that should you use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties.

This is a disaster for me...I've had to use 2017 ever since the useless upgrade

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I  guess it  depends on what you call seamless 

Select a brush preset and use it.

Select the eraser

Right  click to open the presets menu, and hold down Ctrl while reselecting the same brush preset.

You will  now  have the same preset  for brush and eraser,  and Photoshop will remember those  settings, so you just need to hit  the  B and E shortcuts to toggle.  It will  fall down if you changed size with the brush tool, for instance.  In that case the eraser will still be the same size as when you last used it. 

I use Photoshop  almost exclusively for illustration, and while there is  a wee learning process  when new  features are introduced, I am  not  finding it in any way problematic.

Actually, that does not apply to the  Free  Transform Shift and  locked  aspect ratio  thing,  because it is inconsistent.   Twenty  minutes ago I needed  to transform a workpath,  and  forgot that still  works the  old way.   That is  one area that catches me pretty much every day.

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Guys can you tells what specifically you are finding a problem.  If you want to select a preset without changing tools, hold down the Ctrl (Cmd) key.  If you want to know what tool a particular preset has, the turn on all the options in the right click menu.

I've just started doing some digital painting today and I know exactly what they're talking about.  It's amazing you still don't get it.

I'm painting with a brush

I switch to the eraser

The eraser now uses that brush, but it erases instead of paints.

How hard is that to comprehend??????  It's worked that way for DECADES  have you ever heard of "KISS"?  Every designer has.. it's something adobe's developers need to keep in mind when adding new features.  Stands for KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

Instead I switch to the eraser and it dumps the brush I'm using.. and if I'm on the eraser tool and select the brush I want it Switches me BACK to the BRUSH tool.  This is just unacceptable and frustrating.  But why would Adobe care about artists work flows anymore?. They're too busy watching their Stock price soar and purchasing e commerce platforms.

ALSO It's been years and they still don't have a feature that lets you change brush settings and save the updated settings to the current brush.  You HAVE to  create another brush every SINGLE TIME and then go back and delete your other brushes.  So annoying.

Toonboom Has that.  TOONBOOM. Candian animation software has a better brush interface then Photoshop. For shame.

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100% They have made the eraser unusable.. it's absolutely horrible.  I can get the eraser to change what brush it's on.. I'm not sure what short cut I'm using to do it..   It's a total mess. They took something that worked fine and trashed it.

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Yep, can't agree more...I'm stil using 2017

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It's so incredibly BAD.  This is basic a basic function that would screw up any digital painters workflow.  It's just not clear how to turn your brushes into erasers.. It was never this hard.

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Exactly the Same thing I experienced.. it snaps the tool back from the Eraser to the Brush when you try to change your eraser selection.. Adobe has  trashed their software with this.

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This is why Procreate is about to zoom past Photoshop–ease of use. I spend more time messing around with Photoshop to try to make it work the way I want to than actually doing the work. Very frustrating. Maybe Adobe is too big now and doesn't listen to feedback. The Empire is about to be toppled!

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How fortunate that Adobe created a monopoly early on. These programs get worse every year. There is abosultely no time-saving advantage to making this switch to the brush presets. Instead, it requires you make a bunch of redundant brushes for BOTH the brush and the eraser, or create a bunch of unnecessary layer masks that confuse the matter further. Does Adobe have people working on their UX that actually use the product? I stopped updating a while ago because you can't stop ruining the program with useless changes that are intended to make things simpler, but just further complicate a basic process. STOP trying to make little tweaks to key commands and functions just for the sake of saying you changed something – that's not design; that's planned obsolescence. 

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