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Set up - Dell 2 in 1 Laptop integrated graphics HD 520 with a 1080 screen. IPS panel.
attached by HDMI is a 25 HP 25Es IPS panel
I don't know much about color management. However, when working in photoshop, my colors look great and then when bringing them over to a mobile device or someone elses computer, my colors are way off. So, it has to be the color profiles right.
I've read article after article but, it is just confusing me more. I could really use help on this.
As far as my display in windows settings it is set to SRGB ICC 2.1 - Both monitors are clicked to use this setting.
Photoshop is set to use this as a working space as well.
I was thinking of buying a Spyder calibrator, but I don't know if its the screen that's not calibrated or just the colors.
If any one needs more information to help, I can give it. Just unsure what all is needed.
First of all, the camera setting doesn't matter. That only applies to camera-processed jpegs. A raw file doesn't have a color space until encoded into one, in the raw processor (ACR). You set this in the ACR "workflow options" - click the "link" below the main image window in ACR, and the dialog opens up.
Don't set Photoshop policies to "convert to working RGB"! That's a disaster waiting to happen. Always keep it at "Preserve Embedded Profiles". This way, the color space you set in ACR will be pr
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Color Management isn't a "thing", it's a relationship. Think of two hands clapping.
An embedded document profile doesn't correct colors on its own. It needs a second profile, the destination profile. One is then remapped into the other. You always need two profiles for any color management to happen.
Document profiles can be generic and standardized (sRGB, Adobe RGB) - but a monitor profile needs to be custom built in each case. All monitors are different, and they don't behave in a regular manner. This is what a calibrator does.
A color profile is a description of a color space. It doesn't adjust anything, it only describes. The adjusting is then done in the application's color management engine.
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As far as my display in windows settings it is set to SRGB ICC 2.1
Even the monitor maker’s default profiles for your screens might make more sense than that.
Photoshop is set to use this as a working space as well.
But what are the images’ actual Color Spaces? Please set the Status Bar to »Document Profile« and post a meaningful screenshot.
Also what are Photoshop’s Color Management Policies (see Edit > Color Settings)?
when working in photoshop, my colors look great and then when bringing them over to a mobile device or someone elses computer, my colors are way off.
In your case the Color Management on your computer may be messed up, but in general:
Comparing the display of an image in a Color Managed application to the display of the image in applications or on devices that don’t utilise Colour Management is useless.
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c.pfaffenbichler Before we get started, I just really would like to say Thank you for taking the time out to reply and help on this. It is greatly appreciated.
So I have captured all of the information that you asked for.
I did find out though through getting all of this information that when I brought in my photos through camera raw, it was opening them as adobe rgb instead of srgb. So possibly that's where all of the mess up was happening. And, I was aware, and my settings weren't checking for mismatched profiles. With all that being said, I still don't have a calibrator which is seems like I need.
My photos color space are shot in srgb on my Nikon. There was a setting in there for me to choose and that's what it had been set on.
I will include all of the information use asked for.
I wanted to ask as well, that I read adobe rgb shows more colors, and there's the ability to set that as an option in my camera, and Photoshop, but how do I find that for the color profiles for my computer. I also read that it's not best to post images in adobe rgb because most places on the internet don't support it. Any knowledge on that?
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First of all, the camera setting doesn't matter. That only applies to camera-processed jpegs. A raw file doesn't have a color space until encoded into one, in the raw processor (ACR). You set this in the ACR "workflow options" - click the "link" below the main image window in ACR, and the dialog opens up.
Don't set Photoshop policies to "convert to working RGB"! That's a disaster waiting to happen. Always keep it at "Preserve Embedded Profiles". This way, the color space you set in ACR will be preserved in Photoshop - whatever your working space is set to. Any embedded profile will then override the working space. This is how Photoshop is designed to work.
If you care about accurate color, there's no way around a calibrator. You'll never look back. But until then, just use SRGB IEC61966-2.1.
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D Fosse, Thank you as well for getting back to me so quickly! I will get those corrected and double check with you.
In your opinion, 8 bit or 16 bit for the workflow in ACR?
Should I continue to use srgb 2.1 for my monitor profiles as well until I have a calibrator to upload new settings?
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No reason to not use 16 bit color depth these days. Then you have around 16 000 individual values per color channel, instead of only 256.
And yes, in case we neglected to mention it - anything for web needs to be sRGB.
I see you have manufacturer profiles for your displays. You might try those first. But manufacturer monitor profiles are notoriously troublesome and unreliable, and in no way as good as making your own. If they seem wrong in any way, replace them with sRGB.
With a calibrator, you don't do anything other than run it. The software takes care of the rest.
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D Fosse Thank you again for the all of the help.