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Help! In the latest Photoshop 22.0.0 I find Ctrl+J is copying to a new layer a rectangular box bounding the pixels selected as well as the selected pixels. I used this feature extensively in previous versions and I'm at a loss as to how to make it work as before. 

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Help! In the latest Photoshop 22.0.0 I find Ctrl+J is copying to a new layer a rectangular box bounding the pixels selected as well as the selected pixels. I used this feature extensively in previous versions and I'm at a loss as to how to make it work as before. 

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You most likely are having  the Move tool displaying the transform controls.  Remove the check mark from the move tool option bar Show Transform controls.  Photoshop 2021 version 22 does seem to have an issue adding 1px black strokes when it should not be added. If its a bounding control box it most likely the move tool it it a stroke its most likely a version 22 bug.

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I'm not using the Move Tool. I'm using the Quick Selection Tool followed by ctrl-j 

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Could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Channels, Options Bar, …) visible? 

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Hi,

To show and example, if I use the Quick Selection Tool to select the three pot sherds in this photo I get the marching ants round the edge of the potsherds

Quick Select on Pot Sherds.jpg

If I then hit ctrl-j and examine the newly created layer I have not just the pot sherds but a bounding box

Result of ctrl-J on pot sherds selection.jpg

In a previous version of Photoshop I would get just the potsherds in the new layer.

What am I doing wrong, or what has changed in Photoshop?

Thanks for any help you can give me!

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I do not have a problem on my Wibdows 10 systeme with Photoshop 2021 like you have. Ctrl+J creates a new layer which containes the content selected.

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Thanks for trying this.

This is baffling!

Even if I use the Edit>Copy command and then manually create a new layer and Edit>Paste I get the same erroneous result.

Quick-Selection-Tool-Copy-Paste-to-New-Layer.jpg

Here's my System Info:

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Are there some hidden parameters to the Copy command that I don't know about?

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Try turning off GPU support?  Here I used  quick selection tool then Edit Copy Edit Paste

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Thanks for the suggestion.

In my Photoshop installation under Edit>Preferences>Performance>Graphics Processor Settings 

it says "Detected Graphics Processor: Unable to detect information"

and the "Use Graphics Processor" box is unchecked.

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What have you done for trouble-shooting so far? 

Restoring Preferences after making sure all customized presets like Actions, Patterns, Brushes etc. have been saved might be a good starting point:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/basic-trouble-shooting-steps.html

 

"Detected Graphics Processor: Unable to detect information"

That seems like a bad sign, but the operation should be able to be run on the CPU. 

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Well...

...that was a disaster.

I tried Edit>Preferences>General then clicked on "Reset Preferences on Quit" and restarted Photoshop. Now:

1. Any jpg file I open in Photoshop results in a completely black canvas.

2. I can open a CR2 in Camera Raw and that looks OK but as soon as I hit Open to open in Photoshop I get a brief flash of the image on the canvas and then it disappears to a black canvas.

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Do you have two monitors connected/two graphics cards?

Have you tried seeing if your graphics card has an update?

In the meantime, since you did reset your prefs go back to performance - confirm Use Graphics Processor is off.

 

 

Kevin Stohlmeyer Adobe Community Professional/Adobe Certified Instructor

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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for reply.

When I couldn't view any jpg file at all I panicked and uninstalled v22.

I have just installed the only other version Adobe offers me which 21.2.4.

I can now open jpg files OK but the issue with Ctrl-j copying a rectangular box of pixels rather than just the pixels selected remains!

This version 21.2.4 is more recent than the version I was previously using (20.something I think) which allowed me to use ctrl-j absolutely without a problem. However, Adobe seems to have uninstalled this version without asking me and I can't therefore go back to it. Grrr!

Edit>Preferences>Performance still says "Detected Graphics Processor: Unable to detect information" and the box is still unticked.

I do not have a separate monitor. Windows Project says "PC Screen Only".

I'm getting desperate now! Any constructive advice or suggestions welcome!

 

Here's my System Info:

Adobe Photoshop Version: 21.2.4 20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543 x64
Number of Launches: 679
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Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2808 MHz
Built-in memory: 16272 MB
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Memory available to Photoshop: 14886 MB
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Required plug-ins:

Accented Edges 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Adaptive Wide Angle 21.2 - from the file “Adaptive Wide Angle.8bf”
Angled Strokes 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Average 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Average.8bf”
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Chalk && Charcoal 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
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Chrome 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
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Clouds 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Color Halftone 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Colored Pencil 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Conté Crayon 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Craquelure 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
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Crosshatch 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crystallize 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Cutout 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Dark Strokes 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
De-Interlace 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dicom 21.2 - from the file “Dicom.8bi”
Difference Clouds 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Diffuse Glow 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Displace 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dry Brush 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Eazel Acquire 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “EazelAcquire.8ba”
Entropy 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Export Color Lookup Tables 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Extrude 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
FastCore Routines 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “FastCore.8bx”
Fibers 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Film Grain 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Filter Gallery 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Fresco 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glass 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glowing Edges 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Grain 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Graphic Pen 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halftone Pattern 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halide Bottlenecks 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “HalideBottlenecks.8bx”
HDRMergeUI 21.2 - from the file “HDRMergeUI.8bf”
HSB/HSL 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IFF Format 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
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JPEG 2000 21.2 - from the file “JPEG2000.8bi”
Kurtosis 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Lens Blur 21.2 - from the file “Lens Blur.8bf”
Lens Correction 21.2 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
Lens Flare 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Liquify 21.2 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
Matlab Operation 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Maximum 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mean 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Measurement Core 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
Median 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mezzotint 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Minimum 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
MMXCore Routines 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Patchwork 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
PRC 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Radial Blur 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Ripple 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Rough Pastels 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Save for Web 21.2 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 21.2 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shake Reduction 21.2 - from the file “Shake Reduction.8bf”
Shear 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
Spaces 21.2 - from the file “Spaces.8li”
Spatter 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Sumi-e 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
U3D 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Underpainting 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 21.2 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 21.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 21.2 (20200922.r.323 2020/09/22: 8e8e91e8543) - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 21.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plug-ins: NONE


Duplicate and Disabled plug-ins: NONE


Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

com.adobe.ccx.start 3.6.0.50 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-3.6.0\"
CDO: 1.68.5
CmdN: 1.4.13
CDP: 1.95.4
com.adobe.photoshop.exportAs 0.1.0.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\UXP/\com.adobe.photoshop.exportAs\"

com.adobe.photoshop.personalization 1.0.0.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\UXP/\com.adobe.photoshop.personalization\"


Extensions:

com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing 0.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing\index.html”
New Document 3.4.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.fnft-3.4.0\fnft.html?v=3.4.0.16”
Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_9_275\index.html”
com.adobe.inapp.typekit.purchase 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_9_275\purchaseTypekit.html”
Home 2.15.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-2.15.0\index.html?v=2.15.0.7”
com.adobe.capture.extension 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_9_275\extensions\capture\capture.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_9_275\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
Adobe Color Themes 6.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.KulerPanel.html\index.html”
Export As 4.8.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
Export As 4.8.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

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You have two graphics cards listed - an AMD and an NVIDIA. You need to deactivate one of them.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cc-gpu-card-faq.html#DoesPhotoshoptakeadvantageofmore... 

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Kevin,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I tried disabling the two graphics cards in turn and each time restarted Photoshop, but the problem with ctrl-J copying a bounding rectangle of pixels rather than the selected pixels persisted in both cases.

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Did you follow these directions?

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-gpu-graphics-card.html#multiple-gpus 

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Use the Nvidia Control Panel set 3D preference  for Photoshop set Photoshop Prefers to use the Nvidia GPU.

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Thanks for all your advice guys - much appreciated by this relative novice!

I have just used the NVIDIA Control Panel to ensure Photoshop.exe and sniffer.exe were added and also selected "High-Performance NVIDIA Processor" as the preferred graphic processor.

Now in Photoshop Edit>Preferences>Performance>Graphics Processor Settings I see a change: the Detected Graphics Processor shows my NVIDIA processor rather "No Information Available" and also the "Use Graphics Processor" tick box is now tickable.

However, if I tick this box and then open any jpg file I get a totally blank black canvas.

If I untick this box, I can open a jpg file as normal, but - as before - if I select any area of pixels using the Quick Selection Tool and then cut/paste to a new layer or use ctrl-j I get a rectangular area of pixels rather than just the selected area.

Any more thoughts would be appreciated!

Is there a way of going back to Photoshop v20? This worked fine for me! I only noticed this problem with copying pixels in a selection when v21 installed and I assumed it was a bug and would go away with a later realease, so I carried on using v20. To my horror my installation has been updated to v22, the problem persists, and I can't seem to get back to v20.

 

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What is the date of your Nvidia Device driver for your nvidia adapter? Is it the latest studio device driver available?

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My NVIDIA Control Panel>System Information says:

GeForce GTX 1050

Driver version: 385.54

 

However, when I go to the NVIDIA support site this model is not listed!

The closest match I can find is:

GeForce GTX 1650

and a range of Studio Driver versions are offered for this, the latest being:

Driver Version: 457.30 - Release Date: 2020 November 17

Do you think this would this work?

 

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Your GTX 1050 may not meet the minimum requirements for Photoshop 2021:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cc-gpu-card-faq.html 

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html 

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I'm not trying to do anything magical -  just select pixels, then copy and paste them.

The problem with this very basic operation occurs even with the "Use Graphics Processor" box unticked!

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Again - it wouldnt matter to untick the box. Your Graphics Card is not compatible from what I can tell with the latest PS versions.

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You can only go back 1 version of CC apps, so 21 would be the last available version.

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Photoshop is Adobe property and Adobe often make changes to Photoshop and change the way it works and what the machine requirements are requiredfor usiny Photoshop.   Adobe does not support old versions of their software and does not care if users need to buy new equipment to use their software.   Adobe changed machine requirements and dropped support for some Windows and Mac OS versions for theor 2021 version products.   In particular VRAM requirements changed from 512MB to  2GB, Mac Serra  and Windows 7 not supported  and Adobe stated the OLD GPU may be of limited use.  No Date was associated with  the term OLD GPU and there is not list of supported GPU all Adobe seem to state is New GPU that benchmark better the 2000 should be considered for use.    In the Past Adobe seemed to prefer usage of Nvidao Quadro adapters and device drivers for product like AE and Premier Pro which are application the are more demanding on graphics performance than Photoshop.     Adobe also has added compatibility issues and other new issues in Photoshop 22.0 and 22.0.1. and has publish a large list of known issues users will encounter in Photoshop 2021.    Many user find Photoshop 2021 unsuited for their work and need to use Photoshop 2020.  Adobe may find that users will demand the Adobe Continue to support Photoshop 2020 for Photoshop 2021 is a problem.  

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JJ - Adobe still does support 2020. The OP is asking to go back to 2019 which is no longer available.

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v21 is 2020. Current version is 22 = 2021. Confusing I know.

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My NVIDIA GTX 1050 has:

2379 ops/sec benchmark

Direct X 12 support

2GB GPU memory

In what respect is it incompatible with Photoshop v21 and v22?

 

 

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I didnt have your benchmark results and based my response on the base model GTX 1050 which doesnt have enough memory.

 

 There have been previous posts about issues with dual graphics cards and Photoshop utlizing your Intel GPU instead of your GTX 1050 specifically. But you've already tried adjusting using this link. The only other suggestion I've seen is a fresh uninstal and reinstall of the Nvidia drivers.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-gpu-graphics-card.html#GPUandgraphicsdrivertrouble... 

 

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I believe Adobe let you install 2020 supporting 2020 may be a different story. I have seen Adobe add Security fixes to some old version of Photoshop. I do not believe I have seen Adobe fix Photoshop problems in old versions of  photoshop.  Adobe support support seem to be for current software version only. Security patches may be more for Adobe own protection Adobe realizes they need the fix publish security exposures. Perhaps Adobe will realize removing heavy used featured  makes maintenance of old Photoshop version a requirement users will demand from Adobe.

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