How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

Hi all.

I don't get it: The keyboard-shortcuts dialog has a way to save sets of shortcuts, but no way to load them.  What is the point then?

Thanks for any insight.

I wouldn't make any estimates of engineering time without some basis.  I don't make any expertise claims, because they invariably sound pompous and this is an anonymous forum and nobody can prove anything, so why bother?  But since you brought it up twice: Yes, I have 20 years of professional programming experience in customer-facing, image-processing and editing software (among several other kinds) on Windows, Mac, and Unix.

Even that doesn't mean I know Adobe's code base (which, in a product as old as Photoshop, is almost surely a mess).  My conclusion of the ease of "paste as new image" is based on the fact that Photoshop already prepares an image of correct size based on the clipboard contents when you say "New image."  If you hit Return at that dialog, you get a new image containing the clipboard contents.  And that's what should happen with "paste as new image."  The necessary code is already there; you can see it in action.

As I mentioned, this is not some quirky feature that caters to a minority.  It's a standard feature in other graphics-editing and even audio-editing applications.

If they're not going to do it, then they're not.  But the portrayal of every request as somehow absurd doesn't hold water.

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Re: How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

You could copy them to

~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS5/Presets/Keyboard Shortcuts/

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Thanks for the info, but... that's the intended method?  That's pathetic even for Adobe.  Why have the export function if there's no corresponding function to import the resulting file?

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When you save the file, it gets added to the popup menu for the available keyboard shortcuts.

If you save it in the common location for shortcut files, then it'll always be there.

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Thank you, but why would anyone save the file there?  The point of saving a file would be to move it to some other machine.  On the local machine, the keyboard shortcuts are already set up in Photoshop.  Why would you be reloading them from a file buried in local preferences?

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The point is saving your shortcuts is so you can reuse them later after changing shortcuts. Say if you wanted to reset the defaults to follow a tutorial (or let your mother try to follow a tutorial).

That's much more common than moving them to another machine.

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"That's much more common than moving them to another machine."

Flipping back and forth between different sets of keyboard shortcuts is more common than a user who wants to deploy the same set on multiple machines?

If someone is at the experience level of following a tutorial, do you think it's likely that he already set up a bunch of custom keyboard shortcuts?  And not only that, but those shortcuts conflict with those that would be used in a tutorial?  Oh, and he figured out out to save sets of shortcuts before doing said tutorial?

Really?

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Re: really

You know where the saved kys-files are now and you can easily move them to another machine – so what’s your gripe?

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Re: really

I have actual usage data and customer survey results.

How about you?

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I'm sure.  That's why the same profound defects remain in Adobe products despite years of customer complaints.  The scenario you present doesn't withstand the most basic common-sense analysis, which you didn't refute.

The idea is to take a look at what you're saying and admit, yeah, that's probably not too realistic.  Heaven forbid.

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Re: really

Mobius,

You'd be surprised to learn how many of us have a fundamental, visceral aversion to copying, migrating, transferring or "deploying" system, preferences and program files from one machine to another.

Common sense might tell you that can't possibly be true, but it is.

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Then how do you address the numerous gaps in Adobe functionality, which people in Adobe forums will defend by insisting that you do just that (create workarounds with macros and hotkeys and copy them around)?

For example, Photoshop's baffling lack of a "paste as new image" option.  This has to be one of the most common operations in an image-editing application.  Actually, that's too limiting; even audio-editing applications typically have a function to paste the clipboard contents to a new file.

Yet year after year, despite customer requests, Adobe fails to add the three lines or so of code to supply this function.  Apologists always point out that you can do this with a macro.

But you're claiming that no one wants to do that.  So have you also filed requests to have such missing functions added?  Have you taken up the debate against the apologists?  If not, why not?

And what are the rest of us to do?  No matter what you ask for in these forums, no matter how obvious the missing function is, you can count on someone to piss and moan about how everything is perfect just how it is, or that there's already a solution.  But now you're condemning that "solution."

But back to the original question: If you hate migrating settings around, what's your workaround?  Do you manually re-record every macro and remap every key on every machine you use?  And run around revising them all should that become necessary?

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Re: How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

»Adobe fails to add the three lines or so of code to supply this function.«

I’m not familiar with your background, so I don’t know if your esitmate is based on actual programming experience – so: Is it?

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Re: How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

Well, all that arguing was a waste of time for an average reader here. Anyway, I for one am certainly bemused as to why there is no load button in the keyboard shortcut dialog. This is the workaround for this problem (written for Windows):

0) The folder for the default new keys is at C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS5\Presets\Keyboard Shortcuts\ (or similar)

1) In your new Photoshop (Edit -> Keyboard Shortcuts) save a dummy set, say NewKeys.kys

2) You can stay in the dialog, don't press OK

3) Get your good old GoodOldKeys.kys and copy that over NewKeys.kys (in explorer)

4) In the dialog select the Photoshop Defaults key and then re-select the NewKeys.kys (this loads the replaced NewKeys.kys)

5) Press OK and voilà!

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Re: How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

For a reference to Adobe Photoshop's keyboard shortcuts, take a look at the new Photoshop CS6 Quick Reference Guide. It is in its beta form, but it is a great way to find shortcuts, as well as find a menu location that might have changed from CS5. We are looking for your feedback, which you can contribute on the site as well.

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Re: How do you load keyboard shortcuts?

EIGHT YEARS later, and still not fixed.

 

So much for the lie that Adobe's software-rental program was to going give them the budget to fix bugs.

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