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Linked Camera Raw file looses settings, has to be reopened and then remembers...

Explorer ,
Sep 26, 2018 Sep 26, 2018

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Does anyone else experience this?

Our workflow tends to use several linked (File | Place Linked) CR2 files, with different Camera Raw settings applied to the CR2s. Occasionally - especially if they're sat on a different shared drive to the working PSB/PSD they will forget that they've got specific Camera Raw settings applied and instead revert to the defaults. It's usually if you're transforming them (scale/rotate etc.). Double clicking on them reopens Camera Raw and they've got the right settings ready to go so you can just save and close but for the sort of size files we're working with this in a few tens of seconds - multiplied by many, many layers sometimes (and every time you transform them) that becomes a burden!

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Sep 26, 2018 Sep 26, 2018

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I believe the ACR setting are with the linked master CR2 File file not in the Document with the link.  If anyone reset or removed the master CR2 file ACR settings the linked RAW file will have not ACR settings if the master is moved te link will break.  If Someone Changes the Master CR2 file settings when a PSD file that has a linked Smart object layer is opened Photoshop  will use the Changed setting in the master CR2 file to render new pixels for the smart object layer If the are no setting Photoshop will either open the master object file for you to set set them. Or use default settings to render new Pixels If the Master File has been move Photoshop will let you resolve the broken link.

The Smart Object layers associated transform, will most likely not work correctly is someone changed the way the Master CR2 image is cropped

If you want the PSD to be independent embed the RAW file.

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Sep 26, 2018 Sep 26, 2018

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Yes - the XMP file created by ACR custom settings sits next to the CR2 file. But they're not being changed outside of photoshop - no one else is going in/moving it/opening it. It's that, when transforming an already successfully placed linked CR2+XMP, it reverts the CR2 to default ACR settings rather than referring to the XMP ... until you double click the linked object and reopen it. It's looks a like a bug rather than expected behaviour, basically.

And yes - you could of course use embedded instead but that's a less flexible workflow. Coming from layout backgrounds, my design team tend to prefer the InDesign model of working file plus linked content. Trying to find a fix for this rather than a workaround, but thank you!

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Sep 26, 2018 Sep 26, 2018

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M_Hasteley  wrote

Yes - the XMP file created by ACR custom settings sits next to the CR2 file. But they're not being changed outside of photoshop -

Yes but anyone that open PSD with Photoshop and Opens the Smart Object Layers object and changes the ACR settings and commits them.  Efects ever other PSD file that has a linked object. Thy open the masted CR2 File and changed the ACR settings.  When those PSD are open Photoshop will use the new ACR setting and If the Crop has beev changed the existing Smart Object layers Associated Transform may not work correctly.

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Ah I see what you're saying. Yes - that would be expected behaviour but it's not what's happening here. Transforming the layer inside the PSD causes the layer to loose it's ACR settings. Nothing's happening to the CR2/XMP inside ACR - it's not being edited from this PSD or any other, or opened directly from the file system. It's not got any crops applied inside it.

You can tell it's a bug because it's rectified by double clicking to open it (ie it reads the XMP correctly at that point).

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M_Hasteley  wrote

Transforming the layer inside the PSD causes the layer to loose it's ACR settings. .

That should not happen. When you transform a Smart Object layer. All that you are doing is editing the Layers Associated Transform which transform the Pixels that Photshop rendered when the layer was added or rerendered because the master CR2 ACR setting were found to have been changed.  Transform only Transforms the Pixels that were rendered for the smart object layer's object. Raw Conversion is not involed in the Transform Process.   The Layer does not have ACR settings the Master File has ACR settings.  The layer does have an Associated Transform.

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