Not enough RAM while there clearly is?

[frostblommor]

Hello everyone,

One .psd file, 100MB, 15 layers, no text. Trying to drag a 2500px transparent .png into the image, and "Could not place the document [...].png because there is not enough memory (RAM)." Can't even open the aforementioned png separately.

.jpg files are fine, and most smaller .pngs too.

Photoshop has been recently updated (28.05.2013).

Got similar errors yesterday when I couldn't use the Save for Web option (not enough memory) or brushes larger than 1000px. Restarted Photoshop, restarted the PC, nothing.

There have been almost no lags and all filters, brushes, etc... work super fast. Just the RAM issue.

Efficiency is 100%.

Preferences > General

Available RAM 3255 MB, and Photoshop is allowed to use 100%.

Scratch Disk is C:\ with 12,79GB of free space.

Recovery information won't be saved, clipboard won't be exported. I regularly purge the history.

Task manager shows that 6,51GB of memory is currently in use, CPU usage lingers between 1%-3%.

Other programs open right now: Skype, Chrome (6 tabs), FastStone ImageViewer.

Intel Core i-7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz

16,0GB RAM

64-bit Windows 7

Photoshop version is CS6.

[PECourtejoie]

Hello!

Could you post the contents of Help>System info, so that we can see what updates are installed, if you are running the 64 or 32 bits version of Photoshop, the display driver version, etc.

I would not give 100% of the RAM allocation to Photoshop, it might starve i/o drivers, for instance.

[frostblommor]

Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00) x32

Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit

Version: 6.1

System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:10, Stepping:9 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, HyperThreading

Physical processor count: 4

Logical processor count: 8

Processor speed: 3392 MHz

Built-in memory: 16262 MB

Free memory: 10745 MB

Memory available to Photoshop: 3255 MB

Memory used by Photoshop: 100 %

Image tile size: 128K

Image cache levels: 4

OpenGL Drawing: Enabled.

OpenGL Drawing Mode: Advanced

OpenGL Allow Normal Mode: True.

OpenGL Allow Advanced Mode: True.

OpenGL Allow Old GPUs: Not Detected.

OpenCL Unavailable

OpenGL Version: 2.1

Video Rect Texture Size: 8192

OpenGL Memory: 2112 MB

Video Card Vendor: Intel

Video Card Renderer: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Display: 2

Display Bounds: top=0, left=1920, bottom=1200, right=3840

Display: 1

Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1200, right=1920

Video Card Number: 1

Video Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Driver Version: 8.15.10.2656

Driver Date: 20120217000000.000000-000

Video Card Driver: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32

Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 x 4294967296 colors

Video Card Caption: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Video Card Memory: 2112 MB

Serial number: 90970389231589444968

Application folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\

Temporary file path: C:\Users\Helen\AppData\Local\Temp\

Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled

Scratch volume(s):

  C:\, 55,8G, 12,8G free

Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\Required\

Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\Plug-ins\

Additional Plug-ins folder: not set

Installed components:

   ACE.dll   ACE 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   adbeape.dll   Adobe APE 2012/01/25-10:04:55   66.1025012   66.1025012

   AdobeLinguistic.dll   Adobe Linguisitc Library   6.0.0  

   AdobeOwl.dll   Adobe Owl 2012/09/10-12:31:21   5.0.4   79.517869

   AdobePDFL.dll   PDFL 2011/12/12-16:12:37   66.419471   66.419471

   AdobePIP.dll   Adobe Product Improvement Program   7.0.0.1686  

   AdobeXMP.dll   Adobe XMP Core 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

   AdobeXMPFiles.dll   Adobe XMP Files 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

   AdobeXMPScript.dll   Adobe XMP Script 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

   adobe_caps.dll   Adobe CAPS   6,0,29,0  

   AGM.dll   AGM 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   ahclient.dll    AdobeHelp Dynamic Link Library   1,7,0,56  

   aif_core.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   aif_ocl.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   aif_ogl.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   amtlib.dll   AMTLib   6.0.0.75 (BuildVersion: 6.0; BuildDate: Mon Jan 16 2012 18:00:00)   1.000000

   ARE.dll   ARE 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   AXE8SharedExpat.dll   AXE8SharedExpat 2011/12/16-15:10:49   66.26830   66.26830

   AXEDOMCore.dll   AXEDOMCore 2011/12/16-15:10:49   66.26830   66.26830

   Bib.dll   BIB 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   BIBUtils.dll   BIBUtils 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   boost_date_time.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   boost_signals.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   boost_system.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   boost_threads.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   cg.dll   NVIDIA Cg Runtime   3.0.00007  

   cgGL.dll   NVIDIA Cg Runtime   3.0.00007  

   CIT.dll   Adobe CIT   2.1.0.20577   2.1.0.20577

   CoolType.dll   CoolType 2012/06/05-15:16:32   66.507768   66.507768

   data_flow.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   dvaaudiodevice.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvacore.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvamarshal.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvamediatypes.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvaplayer.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvatransport.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dvaunittesting.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   dynamiclink.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   ExtendScript.dll   ExtendScript 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

   FileInfo.dll   Adobe XMP FileInfo 2012/01/17-15:11:19   66.145433   66.145433

   filter_graph.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   hydra_filters.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   icucnv40.dll   International Components for Unicode 2011/11/15-16:30:22    Build gtlib_3.0.16615  

   icudt40.dll   International Components for Unicode 2011/11/15-16:30:22    Build gtlib_3.0.16615  

   image_compiler.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   image_flow.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   image_runtime.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

   JP2KLib.dll   JP2KLib 2011/12/12-16:12:37   66.236923   66.236923

   libeay32.dll   The OpenSSL Toolkit   0.9.8g  

   libifcoremd.dll   Intel(r) Visual Fortran Compiler   10.0 (Update A)  

   libmmd.dll   Intel(r) C Compiler, Intel(r) C++ Compiler, Intel(r) Fortran Compiler   12.0  

   LogSession.dll   LogSession   2.1.2.1681  

   mediacoreif.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

   MPS.dll   MPS 2012/02/03-10:33:13   66.495174   66.495174

   msvcm80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

   msvcm90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

   msvcp100.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2010   10.00.40219.1  

   msvcp71.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET   7.10.3077.0  

   msvcp80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

   msvcp90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

   msvcr100.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2010   10.00.40219.1  

   msvcr71.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET   7.10.3052.4  

   msvcr80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

   msvcr90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

   pdfsettings.dll   Adobe PDFSettings   1.04  

   Photoshop.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

   Plugin.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

   PlugPlug.dll   Adobe(R) CSXS PlugPlug Standard Dll (32 bit)   3.0.0.383  

   PSArt.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

   PSViews.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

   SCCore.dll   ScCore 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

   ScriptUIFlex.dll   ScriptUIFlex 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

   shfolder.dll   Microsoft(R) Windows (R) 2000 Operating System   5.50.4027.300  

   ssleay32.dll   The OpenSSL Toolkit   0.9.8g  

   svml_dispmd.dll   Intel(r) C Compiler, Intel(r) C++ Compiler, Intel(r) Fortran Compiler   12.0  

   tbb.dll   Intel(R) Threading Building Blocks for Windows   3, 0, 2010, 0406  

   tbbmalloc.dll   Intel(R) Threading Building Blocks for Windows   3, 0, 2010, 0406  

   updaternotifications.dll   Adobe Updater Notifications Library   6.0.0.24 (BuildVersion: 1.0; BuildDate: BUILDDATETIME)   6.0.0.24

   WRServices.dll   WRServices Friday January 27 2012 13:22:12   Build 0.17112   0.17112

Required plug-ins:

   3D Studio 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Accented Edges 13.0

   Adaptive Wide Angle 13.0

   Angled Strokes 13.0

   Average 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Bas Relief 13.0

   BMP 13.0

   Camera Raw 7.4

   Chalk & Charcoal 13.0

   Charcoal 13.0

   Chrome 13.0

   Cineon 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Clouds 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Collada 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Color Halftone 13.0

   Colored Pencil 13.0

   CompuServe GIF 13.0

   Conté Crayon 13.0

   Craquelure 13.0

   Crop and Straighten Photos 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 13.0

   Crosshatch 13.0

   Crystallize 13.0

   Cutout 13.0

   Dark Strokes 13.0

   De-Interlace 13.0

   Dicom 13.0

   Difference Clouds 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Diffuse Glow 13.0

   Displace 13.0

   Dry Brush 13.0

   Eazel Acquire 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Embed Watermark 4.0

   Entropy 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Extrude 13.0

   FastCore Routines 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Fibers 13.0

   Film Grain 13.0

   Filter Gallery 13.0

   Flash 3D 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Fresco 13.0

   Glass 13.0

   Glowing Edges 13.0

   Google Earth 4 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Grain 13.0

   Graphic Pen 13.0

   Halftone Pattern 13.0

   HDRMergeUI 13.0

   IFF Format 13.0

   Ink Outlines 13.0

   JPEG 2000 13.0

   Kurtosis 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Lens Blur 13.0

   Lens Correction 13.0

   Lens Flare 13.0

   Liquify 13.0

   Matlab Operation 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Maximum 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Mean 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Measurement Core 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Median 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Mezzotint 13.0

   Minimum 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   MMXCore Routines 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Mosaic Tiles 13.0

   Multiprocessor Support 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Neon Glow 13.0

   Note Paper 13.0

   NTSC Colors 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Ocean Ripple 13.0

   Oil Paint 13.0

   OpenEXR 13.0

   Paint Daubs 13.0

   Palette Knife 13.0

   Patchwork 13.0

   Paths to Illustrator 13.0

   PCX 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Photocopy 13.0

   Photoshop 3D Engine 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Picture Package Filter 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Pinch 13.0

   Pixar 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Plaster 13.0

   Plastic Wrap 13.0

   PNG 13.0

   Pointillize 13.0

   Polar Coordinates 13.0

   Portable Bit Map 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Poster Edges 13.0

   Radial Blur 13.0

   Radiance 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Range 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Read Watermark 4.0

   Reticulation 13.0

   Ripple 13.0

   Rough Pastels 13.0

   Save for Web 13.0

   ScriptingSupport 13.1.2

   Shear 13.0

   Skewness 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Smart Blur 13.0

   Smudge Stick 13.0

   Solarize 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Spatter 13.0

   Spherize 13.0

   Sponge 13.0

   Sprayed Strokes 13.0

   Stained Glass 13.0

   Stamp 13.0

   Standard Deviation 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   STL 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Sumi-e 13.0

   Summation 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Targa 13.0

   Texturizer 13.0

   Tiles 13.0

   Torn Edges 13.0

   Twirl 13.0

   Underpainting 13.0

   Vanishing Point 13.0

   Variance 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Variations 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Water Paper 13.0

   Watercolor 13.0

   Wave 13.0

   Wavefront|OBJ 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   WIA Support 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   Wind 13.0

   Wireless Bitmap 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)

   ZigZag 13.0

Optional and third party plug-ins: NONE

Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

Flash:

   Mini Bridge

   Kuler

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

The 64-bit has been installed too, and I get the same RAM issues, just more often.

[Jeff Arola]

One thing i notice is you only have roughly 12 gb of space left on your c drive.

That's getting pretty low for photoshop plus whatever other programs you have running.

[frostblommor]

I believe 12GB is enough. C:\ is a 55,7GB flash drive.

[PECourtejoie]

It might sound difficult to believe, but 12GBs is not enough, you would not have "out of memory" errors if it was...

[PECourtejoie · Accepted solution]

Yes, you should favor the 64bits version, despite the fact that I understand why you run into more RAM problems with that version...

You DO need to make way more room on the C: drive, or to use another one that has more free space.

The MAIN memory of Photoshop is its Scratch file, the CACHE is in the RAM.

When the RAM fills up (and the 64bits version of Photoshop can use way more than the 3GBs that the 32bits version can), windows creates a bigger pagefile on the HD, and competes for room, hence the not enough memory message.

The 100MB is it on Photoshop's infobar at the bottom of the image window, or on disk? Remember that even PSD files are compressed on Disk, and occupy way more room when opened.

Your display drivers are one year old, is there a newer version available?

[frostblommor]

I see. The 100MB is on disk. Was around 800MB when opened.

According to Windows, display driver software is up to date.

[PECourtejoie]

And each history step might save a copy of a whole (uncompressed) layer...

Don't always trust windows updates, I see more current generic drivers on the intel site, when I search for HD 4000 graphics drivers, but you might want to search to see if it is compatible with your computer.

[Noel Carboni]

I'm not sure you fully understood Pierre, but he's telling you that you should run the 64 bit version of Photoshop.

frostblommor wrote:

Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00) x32

Both 32 and 64 bit Photoshop variants are normally installed, and your System Info readout indicates you're running the 32 bit one, which has memory limitations.

Oh, and I agree with the above posters - your SSD is WAYYY too small.  Consider upgrading to a 256 GB drive.

-Noel

[frostblommor]

Added a 90GB hard drive which will only serve as the Photoshop scratch disk and also started using the 64-bit version. Everything seems a little bit slower, but at least I can now use more RAM and haven't had any out of memory errors either. Thank you everyone!

[PECourtejoie]

I would rather move less used files on the hd, and keep the scratch on the SSD!

[marketing@wazoku.com]

I managed to solve this issue by closing all the Google Chrome windows as well as close the chrome app fully from the main taskbar at the bottom of the computer.

It is really annoying, I have freed more than 15gb worth of space on my disk but no changes and only when i closed all the chrome windows, it successfully exported the file to .psd