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Opened jpeg in PS isn't correct

Community Beginner ,
Jul 17, 2020 Jul 17, 2020

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Let me preface this post by saying that I am VERY NEW to PS.  I am working on digitizing my hand lettering.  After scanning and editing my work in PS, I save the file as a jpeg for upload to my web shop (this format is required.)  The problem:  I meticulouisly erase any pixel noise, smuges/mistakes from my work so as to have a crisp white background.  Then,  I save as jpeg.  When I open this jpeg in PS or upload, the "pixel haze" reappears around the calligrahy.

After spending hours reading about color management, dpi, resolution and troubleshooting different "fixes", nothing has worked.  My brain hurts.  Any help is appreciated.

Top screenshot - Fully edited and finished work ready to be saved, viewed at 200%. (No greyish pixels/haze around the lettering.)

Bottom screenshot - Opened jpeg, viewed at 200%. Notice the greyish pixels/haze around the lettering (which I had already erased before saving as a jpeg.)

Finished calligraphy at 200% ready for savingFinished calligraphy at 200% ready for savingJpeg opened in PS at 200%Jpeg opened in PS at 200%

 

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Community Expert , Jul 17, 2020 Jul 17, 2020

If the image is for use on a website, save it in PNG format with a transparent background  (JPGs can't have transparency). 

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Community Expert , Jul 18, 2020 Jul 18, 2020

Jpeg is the wrong file format for crisp, graphical images such as that shown in your example. Jpeg file compression does a remarkable job of reducing file sizes in photographs but that is at the expense of introducing artifacts particularly around crisp edges. In a normal photograph those artifacts are hardly noticable unless the compression is extreme or applied multiple times. But in crisp graphical images then, as you have shown, the artifacts do become visible.

Try using PNG for that image.

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Community Expert , Jul 20, 2020 Jul 20, 2020

This is exactly right - I can see the artifacts if I zoom into the bottom image. You can also save as a gif - I know people think it's a dead format, but for solid colors it works great. This definitely would do better as a png.

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LEGEND , Jul 20, 2020 Jul 20, 2020

You'll have to live with it. These artifacts are part of the anti-aliasing and compression of that image.

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Jul 17, 2020 Jul 17, 2020

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If the image is for use on a website, save it in PNG format with a transparent background  (JPGs can't have transparency). 

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Jul 18, 2020 Jul 18, 2020

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Hi

On-screen for me there's no visual difference beteween your 2 pasted images.

You'd need to attach a tiff and a jpeg rather than pasting to show us the difference.

 

Jpeg compression potentially creates compression artifacts, visible especially when the image is viewed at an expanded size.

A higher number in the JPEG compression setting may reduce this sufficiently for your needs. 

 

I hope this helps

if so, please "like" my reply and if you're OK now, please mark it as "correct", so that others who have similar issues can see the solution

thanks

neil barstow, colourmanagement.net :: adobe forum volunteer

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Jul 20, 2020 Jul 20, 2020

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Nice

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Jul 20, 2020 Jul 20, 2020

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This is exactly right - I can see the artifacts if I zoom into the bottom image. You can also save as a gif - I know people think it's a dead format, but for solid colors it works great. This definitely would do better as a png.

Melissa Piccone | Adobe Trainer | Online Courses Author | Fine Artist

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Jul 18, 2020 Jul 18, 2020

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Jpeg is the wrong file format for crisp, graphical images such as that shown in your example. Jpeg file compression does a remarkable job of reducing file sizes in photographs but that is at the expense of introducing artifacts particularly around crisp edges. In a normal photograph those artifacts are hardly noticable unless the compression is extreme or applied multiple times. But in crisp graphical images then, as you have shown, the artifacts do become visible.

Try using PNG for that image.

 

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Jul 20, 2020 Jul 20, 2020

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You'll have to live with it. These artifacts are part of the anti-aliasing and compression of that image.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 22, 2020 Jul 22, 2020

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Thank you everyone for the input.  I will try out the suggestions and post my results.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 28, 2020 Jul 28, 2020

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After digging further, the website I'm uploading to (Spoonflower) does allow other file formats. The website states; "For best results, we recommend uploading a JPG or PNG file at 150 dpi. We allow any JPG, PNG, GIF, or TIF file under 40 MB."  I found that saving as png and gif both worked as far as PS goes.  They opened without the artifacts in PS.  However, I tried uploading each file type to my shop online and they all show the grey pixels...not sure if these are artifacts, monitor issue, website issue, internet in general, etc.  But it seems that all designs on Spoonflower that contain hand lettering against a white background have this same issue. (At least on the laptop, desktop, and iphone that I have access to.)  So I'm guessing there's nothing I can do about that.  The printed designs come out fine though, so that's  a relief!!

Of course, I'm open for any further suggestions if there is a better way to upload the design for better webviewing and printing. 

 

Thanks again for all your help!!

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Odds are the site is recompressing images. Have you talked to their tech support?

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