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Photoshop 21.2 BUG in smart object scaling on update

Community Beginner ,
Jun 23, 2020

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Double-click a smart object, edit the size of its canvas by reducing/cropping the height (for example), save, and back out to the main document. The placed/updated smart object is now re-scaled and "stretched" to fill the pixel dimensions of the object's former size.

 

The prior (correct) behavior was that the placed smart object would change in height but remain in the correct proportion and not be stretched.

 

Was this an intentional change in behavior (and if so, why??) or is it a bug?

If the former, what setting can be tweaked to revert to the older behavior?

This issue seems to have been fixed with the rollout of Photoshop version 21.2.1

Thanks, Adobe!

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Photoshop 21.2 BUG in smart object scaling on update

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Double-click a smart object, edit the size of its canvas by reducing/cropping the height (for example), save, and back out to the main document. The placed/updated smart object is now re-scaled and "stretched" to fill the pixel dimensions of the object's former size.

 

The prior (correct) behavior was that the placed smart object would change in height but remain in the correct proportion and not be stretched.

 

Was this an intentional change in behavior (and if so, why??) or is it a bug?

If the former, what setting can be tweaked to revert to the older behavior?

This issue seems to have been fixed with the rollout of Photoshop version 21.2.1

Thanks, Adobe!

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LEGEND ,
Jun 23, 2020

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You can post a Bug Report over on 

Photoshop Family

and please post the link here. 

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LEGEND ,
Jun 23, 2020

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It seems the issue only arises if the SO instance has been tranformed. 

Which makes the new behaviour even more nonsensical … if there are two instances and one has been transformed or moved and the other not, then the updating of the SO with a changed Canvas Size will result in the one instance getting distorted, the other not. 

Screenshot 2020-06-23 at 20.46.50.pngScreenshot 2020-06-23 at 20.47.12.png

 

Quite frankly this update’s issues seem flabbergasting to me. 

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Jun 23, 2020

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Hold on a second. You need to realize that every smart layers has an associated object transform set when the smart object layer was created and that transform can be alters and even have warping added for perspective or shape.   When you use replace content or edit a smart object, Smart object layers associated transform are not  changed.  If you change the aspect ratio or size of the object you can not count on the associated transform working  some predictably way.  A smart object can also be shared by duplicated layer that have different associated object transforms set.  There can be many transforms associated with a smart object.  If you change the size of a smart object you are asking for problems.

 

If you create  a  smart object layer and do not change photoshop defaulted object transform.  You may get away with scaling an object. However, changing the objects aspect ratio by cropping or adding canvas is simply asking for problems. If you scale an object how can you count on it warping the way you want when the transform warping was set for the object original scale. If you just accept Photoshop original associated object transform will normally do no resizing  if you create the smart object from photoshop document layers, the default object transform will most likely  be transform the width and height to the  object actual pixels size 100% width and 100% object height.

 

You should not change any aspect of a smart object canvas. It need to have that many pixels the canvas width and eight to match what the associated object transforms were set up with.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 23, 2020

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»If you change the size of a smart object you are asking for problems.«

So far the behaviour has been consitent – changing a Smart Object’s Canvas Size will not change its instances scaling. 

After more than a decade of this behaviour changing it without a discernable benefit seems unreasonable. 

 

And the kicker is this: It can lead to different results when updating different unscaled, unwarped, … instances of the same Smart Object! 

Screenshot 2020-06-24 at 08.29.21.pngScreenshot 2020-06-24 at 08.30.08.png

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 25, 2020

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@JJMack

 

I have been doing this for years, changing the canvas size of a smart object and then having it update in the original parent document.Yes, sometimes it can shift around in position if you don't crop/resize proportionally to the center because the anchor point is no longer where it expects to be but it has never before changed the scale proportions of the smart object when you update them. In the past when it would update it would respect the original ratio of the scale regardless of what sort of warping you had going on but this is no longer the case. This bug is making Smart Objects into Dumb Objects, essentially.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 25, 2020

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Most Valuable Participant ,
Jun 25, 2020

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That does not change the fact that the recorded associate object transform settings are set for the size and aspect ratio of the original smart object in the that object layer.  If you change the Object size and aspect ration the replacement  image will distort and not resize the way the original object resized.  The behavior of smart object layer have not changed.  And if the original smart object layer was created by Place Image the image may have also been degraded by resampling the placed file image because the Print resolution did not match the document the image was placed into.  Place has an issue there. It does not preserve the images pixels like Copy Paste, duplicate layer and draging and dropping images between documents.

 

These issueds are many years old. Adobe does not seem to want to address them. 

JJMack

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LEGEND ,
Jun 27, 2020

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»The behavior of smart object layer have not changed.«

The behaviour has changed and Jeff Tranberry has stated that he can reproduce the issue over on

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/photoshop-21-1-1-problem-changing-canvas-size...

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Jul 01, 2020

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Haha, agreed — 'Dumb Objects'. It's killing my workflow.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 24, 2020

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 24, 2020

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Thanks for posting that link on Photoshop Family.

I updated Photoshop via the Creative Cloud desktop app this morning (it still says it's version 21.2.0), and this smart object scaling/skewing issue is still as problem.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 25, 2020

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This bug has completely broken my workflow that I have used for years and I am unable to complete the project I am working on. This urgently needs to be fixed because it is a completely unacceptable bug.

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Jun 26, 2020

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You need to be able to work around Adobe bugs.  You never know what Adobe will brake next or if they will fix the bugs they add. Keep old versions of Photoshop installed as a safety net. Adobe has also done some thimg wrong by design  for someone  at Adobe felt the wrong wats is the bewer way

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LEGEND ,
Jun 27, 2020

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True that. 

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