Problem with animated gif

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Hi everyone!

 

I have been using Photoshop 2020 this past week to create animated gifs for a color theory class I'm taking. While I'm more familiar with the Adobe Indesign and Illustrator applications, creating these gifs were fun and Photoshop was super easy to navigate/familiarize myself with. When I got to the part where I need to save for web legacy, that's when I ran into some issues.

 

When I click File > Export > Save for web (legacy) a window pops up with all of the presets (default set at [unnamed]). Per the project requirements, I am supposed to save these gifs as animated gifs. When I click on the preset tab arrow, my instructor says there's supposed to be an option for it. There's not. My options are:

 

GIF128 Dithered

GIF 120 No Dither

GIF 32 Dithered

GIF 32 No Dither

GIF 64 Dithered

GIF 64 No Dither

GIF Restrictive

 

And so on.  I looked online and it said to select GIF 128 Dithered and then change the color to 256. When I do that, it changes the GIF preset back to [unnamed]. So now I'm at a loss. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Photoshop, and still nothing. It's becoming very frustrating. I can't seem to get it figuredout.

 

Thank you all in advance!

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Problem with animated gif

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Hi everyone!

 

I have been using Photoshop 2020 this past week to create animated gifs for a color theory class I'm taking. While I'm more familiar with the Adobe Indesign and Illustrator applications, creating these gifs were fun and Photoshop was super easy to navigate/familiarize myself with. When I got to the part where I need to save for web legacy, that's when I ran into some issues.

 

When I click File > Export > Save for web (legacy) a window pops up with all of the presets (default set at [unnamed]). Per the project requirements, I am supposed to save these gifs as animated gifs. When I click on the preset tab arrow, my instructor says there's supposed to be an option for it. There's not. My options are:

 

GIF128 Dithered

GIF 120 No Dither

GIF 32 Dithered

GIF 32 No Dither

GIF 64 Dithered

GIF 64 No Dither

GIF Restrictive

 

And so on.  I looked online and it said to select GIF 128 Dithered and then change the color to 256. When I do that, it changes the GIF preset back to [unnamed]. So now I'm at a loss. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Photoshop, and still nothing. It's becoming very frustrating. I can't seem to get it figuredout.

 

Thank you all in advance!

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If the Animation options appear dimmed in the Save for Web dialog box (shown below), then your document does not have anything in the Timeline panel.

Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 6.45.23 PM.png

 

 


Adobe Photoshop User Guide > Video and animation > Create timeline animations

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/creating-timeline-animations.html

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your instructor is wrong, there is no standard for animated Gif

  1. more than 1 frame
  2. number of repeats... this has changed from forever (early internet days) to a limited number (to combat adds) and back to forever which most todays browsers allow

Screenshot (1201).png

Screenshot (1202).png

you can set your colour options from sRBG to internet but thats not a standard and in fact sRBG will play on more devices out there anyway

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Hello!

I am having the exact same problem. When I change the Preset to 'GIF 128 Dithered' it won't then let me change the Colour setting to '256' it just changes the option back to 'unnamed' and as a result the GIF looks terrible quality. Is there something I can do? 

Ive made lots of GIFs last week and didn't have this problem. 

Thanks so much

 

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Yes, the GIF 128 Dithered preset will set the Colors value to 128; however, all you have to do is increase the Colors value (it's not locked).  The Preset pop-up will change to "Unnamed", but just leave that alone or use the pop-up menu to the right to "Save Settings..."  You could name it GIF 256 Dithered if all you've done is start with GIF 128 Dithered.

 

 

-Warren

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Hi Warren,

Thank you so much for getting back to me. I have just tried this, and it has worked. Thank you so much.

Just one thing, I was shooting on a plain pink background and the colours in the background are very pixelated / distorted in the shadows and look a bit crap. There are 118 files in the GIF so the error message kept coming up until I reduced the image size to 1500. Might you kindly have any advice on how I can improve the quality (I already changed the setting from 'Optimised' to  'Original'  on the top left)

or is it simply because the GIF exporter can't handle so many files?

Thanks a million.

Jane

 

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A couple of things:

 

First, the reason the Preset changed to [Unnamed] is not a concern. GIF 128 Dithered was simply a named preset, or saved combination of settings. When any setting is changed, the new combination no longer matches what was in the preset, so it changes to [Unnamed]. It does not check to see if the new combination of settings matches any other existing preset, so even if the new setttings matched a preset called GIF 256 Dithered it would not automatically match it up. What matters is that the settings are what you want. And if you wanted to use those same settings again in the future, you would do what Warren said and save your own preset and name it GIF 256 Dithered.

 

Second, without seeing it, one reason the background and shadows look bad is probably not directly due to the image size or number, but might be that the GIF standard only allows up to 256 colors. If the color palette of your 118 images changes enough over time, the 256-color GIF palette may not have enough colors to cover them all. The color palette in Save for Web lets you do some advanced things like locking important colors, which is one way I deal with that. Or see if there is any way that color variations over time can be reduced so that all colors used across the 118 files could be represented by only 256 colors.

 

Or, you can increase the percent of dithering, or try a different dithering method. That can simulate more colors, but at the potential cost of larger file size and more visible dither dots.

 

If everything gets too difficult to resolve within the archaic 1990s limit of 256 colors that animated GIF allows,  it’s time to start considering whether it could be done as a standard H.264 video instead, looping in the background of a DIV element on the web page.

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Hi Jane:

 

It's sounding like what you're experiencing is a result of a photo-realistic image being reduced to 256 colors or less - which is a limitation of GIF files.  Once we get to thousands of colors (a little more than 65,000 colors), things look a lot better.  Then, of course, at millions of colors (16,000,000) or more, photos look great.

 

If you're exporting a video file as an Animated GIF, the effect of a 256 color limit gets worse as it's the same 256 colors across every frame.  If you can find an application called Debablizer, it can analyze the video and create what's called a "super pallet" that can be loaded when creating the Animated GIF; however, that software stopped being published a very, very long time ago.  Debabilizer was a must-have in the mid to late 1990s when CD-ROMs were a common form of multimedia distribution.

 

 

-Warren

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Hi Conrad,

Thank you so much for your advice it seems that we might need a few more colours in our lives than 256! 

Hope you have a great day.

Jane

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Hi Warren,

 

This has been very helpful and I was able to complete the job with your advice.  Thank you so much.

 

I hope you have a great day.

Jane 

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