Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Having an issue with the new update. Finally, I am seeing my extension name update when a new one is selected in the save as dialog box... however I am still having an issue with saving over original files. If I make changes to a file then try to save over the .png file it keeps saving as filename-copy.png. I am not able to unselect the "Save as a copy" box. Anyone else?

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Hi Courtney,

Welcome to the Adobe Community!

Could you please let us know the version of Photoshop and the Operating System you're working with?

Have you tried updating Photoshop to the most recent version which is 20.0.7 via the Creative Cloud Desktop app and see if it helps?

 

Regards,
Sahil

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I am using Photoshop 20.0.7 with the macOS Catalina 10.15 - newest of both if I am not mistaken.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I'm having the same annoying issue.  I want to update the existing file, not create a "copy."  I even keep telling photoshop to overwrite existing file.  Nope.  It creates a new copy each time.  Then I have to take the whole extra series of steps to erase the original and rename the copy.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Same! It's making me crazy! In this case a dialog box should never even pop up, should just save over the original where it lives and yet I hit save and a dialog opens taking me to some random folder and even the warning button "do you wan to replace original?" I click yes and it STILL makes a damn copy! Photoshop and Bridge 2020 are buggy AF.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I am having this same issue on 21.0.1. It is really annoying.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Same here. Latest update — Illustrator 24.0.1

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I'm having the same issue.  Any resolution?  Thx

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

same problem.... 

It seems that Adobe is more interested in creating a complicated interface with a lot of animation - instead of software that works without too much glitter and effects.. 

 

Fix it now Adobe .. and come back to the time when your software was one of a kind

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I'm having the same problem Courtney, along with a myriad of other issues since updating both CC and Mac OS yesterday to the most recent versions. Regrets, I've had a few : (

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Adobe Community Professional , Dec 04, 2019

Two possible reasons:

  • the modification includes properties not supported in the png specification
  • macOS Catalina.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

I too am having this issue. On macOS Catalina. Latest Photoshop version, to my knowledge. I have a PSD which I make changes to, then save as jpeg. I'm saving over an old version of a jpeg that I've been asked to update. Specifically say "overwrite" and I get a copy instead.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Adobe Community Professional , Jan 01, 2020

"I'm saving over an old version of a jpeg that I've been asked to update. Specifically say "overwrite" and I get a copy instead."

 

That's irrelevant. The question is if you have added properties that are not supported by the jpeg file format specification. That's virtually anything you can do to an image in Photoshop. Most people don't realize what a fundamentally limited file format jpeg is.

 

Just one example: If you crop, with the crop tool set to "hide" instead of "delete", you get a floating layer. That is not admissible in jpeg. So it has to be a copy. That's just a random example, it goes on and on.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

That's irrelevant. The question is if you have added properties that are not supported by the jpeg file format specification. That's virtually anything you can do to an image in Photoshop. Most people don't realize what a fundamentally limited file format jpeg is.

 

Can you please clarify what you mean? I have a PSD. Yes, it has many layers and other fun things, but I want my final output to be a jpeg. I go to "Save As" and I choose "jpeg" from the "format" menu. The file extension changes to ".jpg" and I save the file. (My understanding is that this save as command merges the layers and produces a valid jpeg image.)

 

The problem is that the system tells me it is going to overwrite my file (which is the expected behavior) but then it saves a copy instead. Which means I have to manually delete the old jpeg and rename the new one so it doesn't say "copy".

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Adobe Community Professional , Jan 01, 2020

"My understanding is that this save as command merges the layers and produces a valid jpeg image."

 

Yes, it does - but in the process a lot of information is thrown out in order to produce a jpeg. Photoshop never discards data without explicit confirmation from the user.

 

So it produces a copy, and then asks you what you want to do with the original, containg all your data. This original is still open.

 

In a way it was a lot simpler in the old days. If the file didn't already conform to the jpeg specification, jpeg simply wouldn't be an option under "Save As". Saving out a jpeg copy was added at some point due to user demand.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Okay, this makes sense, but Photoshop's behavior has changed and it isn't performing as expected.

If I have a document and I choose "Save As" and set the format to jpeg, and then name the file the same as a different file, I get a warning message which reads "Filename.jpeg" already exists. Do you want to replace it? A file or fodler with the same name already exists in the folder Dcuments. Replacing it will overwrite its current contents.

If I click "Replace" and save the file, the file is saved as a copy. The original file is not replaced or overwritten. This is a change from how the "Save As" and "Replace File" command has worked in the past. In the past if this message came up and I hit "Replace" the file was overwritten.

As of current, the file is not overwritten which is a loss of functionality IMO, but also causes user confusion because the result is not what the alert box said the result would be.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

The problem for me is if I save as a jpeg it saves a jpeg like expected, but if I then save as a jpeg again asking to overwrite the first jpg file then confirm that I want to overwrite the jpg file it does not. It creates a second jpg with copy in the name which has to be removed and the original jpg discarded. 

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Rewriting an existed image is how it has to work and the current behaviour with adding 'copy to the filename' is a bug!

When I rewrite an image, I mean to update it. For example, I've made changes to the image, that is currently linked to some document (indesign, illustrator, website or other) and I want it to be updated immediately in that app. If it creates a new file with a new filename, then I have to manually relink it to that new file which is nonsence! I do not need a new copy — I want my updated file with the same filename.

Ofcourse, adding 'copy' instead of rewriting file is a bug and it has to be fixed ASAP.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

So I just got done with a support chat with an Adobe Rep. He pointed out that the "As a Copy" checkbox is checked, so the program is behaving as expected. There, apparently, is no way to uncheck the checkbox... which, in my mind, defeats the whole purpose of having a save as jpeg command.

mustbecopy.jpg

 

If I have to manually merge layers before saving as a jpeg just so I don't have to save as a copy, that's a whole extra step that the computer is already doing for me. Or can/should do for me.

 

CC2019 has similar behavior, but I am positive I've overwritten jpegs this year. Anyone on Mohave able to check and see if this is a Catalina bug?

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

No the program doesn't work as expected and the support chat isn't right!

1. Create test.psd file
2. Save test.jpg
3. Make changes and try to rewrite test.jpg you've created on step 2
Dialogue window appears that says:
Screenshot 2020-01-01 at 22.02.13.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It says: "replacing it will OVERWRITE its current contents" — Yes, thank you, Photoshop, that's what I meant to do! Its typical behaviour for all apps that we all use.
4. It creates 'test copy.jpg' and not overwrites current contents :((( ofcourse it's a bug and must be fixed.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Adobe Community Professional , Jan 01, 2020

"if I then save as a jpeg again asking to overwrite the first jpg file then confirm that I want to overwrite the jpg file it does not."

 

That seems entirely justified to me. Every time you save a jpeg, the destructive compression kicks in all over again. It doesn't matter if you already have an existing jpeg by that name. It's a new file, jpeg compressed all over again! This is how jpeg compression works.

 

The point I'm trying to get across here is that jpeg is a very special case. When you save a jpeg, you never get the same file back! Save it again, and it's a different file.

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

Contacted Adobe support — said that it's a known issue and pointed me here:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/photoshop-saving-copy-not-saving-over-jpg-fil...

Maybe it's more useful to write there?

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Re: Saving as Copy instead of Overwriting

D_Foss, we understand. We understand jpeg is a special file that is very limited. We only want to save a new jpeg file with the same exact name as another jpeg file.

 

Here's my use case:

I have a PSD. This PSD contains text about an upcoming event. I export it as a jpeg so I can give it to my client. (My client will probably print this jpeg using MS Word. They dumb, but have money.) I save my PSD as a PSD so can keep my layers and text editable. Then I Save As a jpeg. (Name: event graphic.jpg)

I open up the jpeg file to check it over before emailing my client, and I notice I made a mistake. I forgot to change the date. So I open up my PSD. And I change the date so it is correct. I save my PSD. Then I Save As and choose format as a jpeg.

I use the same filename. (event graphic.jpg)

The old jpeg is entirely unwanted. It's incorrect. I want to save over it with a new jpeg.

The OS says: Hey, are you sure you want to save over this file?

I say: Yes. I am sure I want to save over this file. It is not a file I want anymore. It is wrong.

Then Photoshop saves a copy of the jpeg. Now the file that is wrong called "event graphic.jpeg" and I I have that is correct called "event graphic copy.jpg"

 

So right now, I either have to manually delete the jpeg file I don't want. And rename the new jpeg file so it doesn't say "copy". (Because I'm a professional and I give my clients files with clean and clearly labeled names.)

 

Or I have to open my PSD file, Merge/Flatten all the layers. (Note: This is a destructive proccess which makes everything unediable.) And then save as a jpeg. (Since I have no layers it will let me overwrite the jpeg file now.) Then I have to go back to my PSD and undo the merge/flatten layers so that I can make changes to the document later when my client comes back and tells me they changed the date again or they want the colors to be green instead of blue.

 

I think we all understand that jpegs are compressed, destructive, limited file formats. We don't care. We need a jpeg file. And we don't want the jpeg file we already made. And before today we didn't have to manually delete the old file before saving a new one.

 

Before today, every time I said "Overwrite" the file was overwritten by an entirely new and destructively compressed jpeg file with the same name of the one I was trying to overwrite. And I was happy.

 

The reason we're unhappy today is that an update (maybe it's Adobe, maybe it's a dumb Apple Catalina Permisions bug) has caused a hiccup in our workflow and I have spent way too many hours of my workday trying to figure out how to make the app work the way it has worked for me in the past and how I expect it to work based off the information provided by the system.

 

(I do want to say thank you for your help. Your initial comment about layers did help me figure out that layers are part of the problem. But it is a bug when the "save as copy" checkbox is checked and greyed out.)

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I'm also having this issue, Photoshop 21.0.2, MacOS Catal...

I'm also having this issue, Photoshop 21.0.2, MacOS Catalina v10.15.2 (19C57).

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Re: I'm also having this issue, Photoshop 21.0.2, MacOS Catal...

Yes, I am having this same irritating 'Save as copy' error and others issues with Photoshop 2020. I find it very frustrating to have basic Photoshop tasks and workflow commands I've relied on for decades suddenly failing (i.e. 99% saving crashes, shift key for transform constrain proportions).

D_Foss, I've seen your comments here and on other threads. You're not helping anyone by negating user's concerns, saying these are features not bugs and shifting the blame to Mac OS. If we're paying Adobe a monthly fee for Mac OS Photoshop, it should work on Mac OS. We don't want to be beta testers, we just want Photoshop to work as it always has.

I can appreciate it when Adobe rolls out new features that are actually helpful, but please stop undermining old features that professionals depend on.

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