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Today, all of a sudden, two of my most used functions—holding down the space bar to move the image around and holding down CMD-space bar to zoom—just up and quit on me (I do like the "Scrubby" but it took a little getting used to. It's very touch screen-esque).

I did all of the normal trouble shooting such as deleting the prefs, relaunching, restarting, etc. Nothing. The functions work fine in the other CS5 programs.

Anybody else come across this? I checked through all of the prefs thinking that perhaps I accidentally changed something but I couldn't find anything. If all else fails, I'll do an uninstall/reinstall but only as a last resort.

I did notice that Adobe finally fixed the Distort (in Full Screen Mode) bug that was killing me in CS4.

Thanks for any help.

Check the OS shortcuts in System Preferences, especially the keyboard->Keyboard Shortcut settings, and Universal Access.  The modifier spacebar keys are frequently used to change localized keyboard settings.

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Space Bar Hand Move & CMD-Space Zoom Not Working—CS5

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Today, all of a sudden, two of my most used functions—holding down the space bar to move the image around and holding down CMD-space bar to zoom—just up and quit on me (I do like the "Scrubby" but it took a little getting used to. It's very touch screen-esque).

I did all of the normal trouble shooting such as deleting the prefs, relaunching, restarting, etc. Nothing. The functions work fine in the other CS5 programs.

Anybody else come across this? I checked through all of the prefs thinking that perhaps I accidentally changed something but I couldn't find anything. If all else fails, I'll do an uninstall/reinstall but only as a last resort.

I did notice that Adobe finally fixed the Distort (in Full Screen Mode) bug that was killing me in CS4.

Thanks for any help.

Check the OS shortcuts in System Preferences, especially the keyboard->Keyboard Shortcut settings, and Universal Access.  The modifier spacebar keys are frequently used to change localized keyboard settings.

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Check the OS shortcuts in System Preferences, especially the keyboard->Keyboard Shortcut settings, and Universal Access.  The modifier spacebar keys are frequently used to change localized keyboard settings.

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I had already checked there.

It's only in Photoshop CS5 that this is happening. Flash, InDesign, and Illustrator are all working fine. If it were something in the System Prefs, I would assume that it would affect all of the programs, no?

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No, because Apple has some per-application settings.

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Well, 5 minutes ago, both functions started working again out of the blue. I have no idea why and I did not change any prefs. I have been switching between PS, Flash, and Illustrator. When I started this morning, they were working in Flash and Illustrator but not PS. After several hours, boom!, they are working in PS. Obviously, there is a bug somewhere. But now I can not use Acrobat 9 Pro because it says that I need to activate the Suite, which I have done. I am probably going to have to call Adobe on this one.

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I spoke too soon. The problem has returned. Arrrgh. Out of the blue. Anybody else having this issue? Adobe, are you there? Any ideas of what is going on?

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System prefs > spotlight. Turn off the shortcuts.

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Thanks but that is not it.

As I have mentioned before, it happens ONLY in PS and NONE of the other CS programs. This occurred when I began running CS5. It does not happen in CS4.

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It works! Thanks

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I'm having the same issue, but I found that it occurs when I open an image from Bridge CS4/CS5. It works again when I reboot my computer. It doesn't happen on Photosho CS4.  There's some bug between Bridge and Photoshop CS5. Anyone else having the same problem?

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@NWitness

Are there other variables involved? My Space Bar Hand is working again (though I expect it to go any minute) and so I tried your thought but I could not replicate the problem. For me, it is either some other issue, or something other variable along with opening from Bridge.

In PS CS4, my Distort transform would always go wonky on me when I was in Full Screen mode. I would have to switch out of Full Screen and back in and then Distort would work again, usually for only 1 or 2 images. If I were working on, say 12 images, I would have to repeat this process 3-5 times. I figure that there has to be something like this that is affecting the Space Bar Hand. I was really hoping that your Bridge bug was the answer.

BTW, it should be noted that I am running CS5 Design Premium on Snow Leopard while drinking a Bud Light. Perhaps the issue lies with the OS or the beverage of choice.

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Im having the same problem, fine in Flash CS5 just PS is causing the problem..

Snow Leopard

CS5 Design Premium

Ironically I have Lucky beer in the fridge.

Of all the shortcuts I use, this is by far the most frequently used.

Be very interested in the fix for this..

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We're trying to track this down. Next time it happens to you, please do the following to help us debug:

1. Take a screen shot of your entire Photoshop workspace (so we can see what panels are showing when this happens)

2. Take a screen shot of Activity Monitor (so we can see every other program and process that is running) (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor)

3. Then quit each other application that is running one by one and check see if the problem goes away after quitting each app

4. If you quit all other applications and it still occurs, try resetting your workspace WIndow>Workspace>Essentials and then select Window>Workspace>Reset Essentials

Thanks.

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Hi Jeffrey,

Thanks for responding.

Please  find screenshots attached..

I was able to use the hand  after I closed Dreamweaver and also after I restarted Dreamweaver.

Regards,

Phil

Screen shot 2010-05-28 at 7.13.51 AM.png

Screen shot 2010-05-28 at 7.13.24 AM.png

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Phil this helps. I'll start digging in more. The more people that post similar tests/results will let us figure it out. I've also heard people say that quitting their browser also gives the keys back to PS. The more data points we have the better.

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Hi Jeffery.

My spacebar move and zoom is currently working.  I've enclosed screen grabs of the workspace and activity monitor.  Please note that my workspace extends over 2 monitors.

As soon as  move and zoom stop working again, I will send you screen grabs  of those.

Rudy

rudy_activityMonitor.jpg

rudy_PS_CS5_workspace.jpg

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Thanks Rudy.

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I just started using CS5 today and ran into the same issue. Every CS5 program I have open is all of a sudden disabled in terms of being able to use the space bar / cmd / option keys to get the hand tool, and magnification tool.

It happened in Photoshop and Illustrator simultaneously.

I have gone through this thread and disabled spotlight shortcuts and other keyboard modifiers used by os x by default and it is still broken. I restarted both Photoshop and Illustrator and it still does not work.

I am going to attempt re-booting my machine but if this is going to be the norm it is going to seriously impact my workflow since those are keyboard commands I use all the time.

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Rebooting my mac brought back the keyboard commands in Photoshop and Illustrator. I will post more information if that issue happens again and see if I can find a pattern or a situation that will cause it to happen.

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Thanks DrunkCyclist. Be sure to try my debugging steps above ( http://forums.adobe.com/message/2846310#2846310 ) to see if there is another process that is conflicting.

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I've had the same problem and i can confirm that quitting the webbrowser brings back the hand-tool in Photoshop. Adobe - I hope this information helps you to fix this bug quick. I also hope for an Photoshop-Update that fixes the "slow scrolling" problem (off topic).

Apart from that Photoshop CS5 seems to run smoother and faster on my MacBook Pro than CS4 did, seems you guys did a good job! 😃

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Matthias,

It helps. We haven't reproduced the problem in house for the Hand/Spacebar issue but we have some good clues.

Which Web Browser do you use? Do you remember what content/URLs were active/visible? What version of Flash Player do you have?

Slow scrolling - Yes, we're aware of the issue. I was looking at a fix for it yesterday. Which mouse (brand/model) do you use?

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Jeffrey -

I use Firefox 3.6.3. I don't remember all the websites that were visible, but I think I had www.spiegel.de as a tab open and in another tab i was logged into an account of http://basecamphq.com/. is it possible, that there is a conflict, when a javascript/JQuery/lightbox on a website responds to keyboard-commands?

my flash player is version 10,1,52,15

and the scrolling problem appears with this new "apple magic mouse" as well as with the old "mighty mouse" (wired version)

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I haven't had the problem come back since I rebooted yesterday. I see that other people replied to the thread but I haven't been able to reproduce the issue since.

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Just wanted to add my tuppence worth. Same problem but with Indesign CS4. Quitting Chrome browser (15.0.874.121) restored the Hand Tool...

Opening Chrome before InDesign causes the bug to reappear. Opening InDesign, then Chrome is fine.

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Just happened to me for the first time. After reading this thread I tried quitting Chrome and it fixed it. I had among other things open in chrome multiple Youtube videos and Audiogalaxy.com.

Google Chrome21.0.1180.79 (Official Build 151411)
OSMac OS X
WebKit537.1 (@124502)
JavaScriptV8 3.11.10.18
Flash11.3.300.271
User AgentMozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_4) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.79 Safari/537.1

Adobe Photoshop Version: 12.1 (12.1x20110328 [20110328.r.145 2011/03/28:10:30:00 cutoff; r branch]) x64

iMac12,1

2.5GHz, 12GB RAM

Starting chrome again and reloading the same session did not cause the problem to re-appear.

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Hi everyone,

MY PROBLEM FIXED!

I stumbled accross this forum because for the first time ever my pan and zoom functions (ctrl+space) stopped working on Ps cs4 out of the blue.

Turns out the play/pause button along the top of my multimedia keyboard was semi-depressed due to something being spilled on it. I had pressed it early in the day to pause music and realized it didn't pop all the way back up.

After pulling the button up by hand to it's normal position, the functions in PS began working normally!

It may be worth checking to make sure all the keys on your keyboard are functioning properly as this may be the cause of your Ps issues.

Hope this helps!

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Hi guys,

I've just had the same problem in InDesign CS4 - you don't realise how much you use this command until it stops working!! First time it's happened to me since installing the CS4 suite some 3 months ago.

Anyway, having read the thread, I did what Jeffrey Tranberry suggested and quit my web browser, which fixed the problem straight away (was running Firefox 3.6.3 if that's of any help).

Cheers

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I don't believe it but I think that I finally found the culprit: hulu (the desktop app, not through a browser).

To make sure, I rebooted, launched PS, Flash, and InDesign, and then fired up every app that I could think of, one by one, testing each time, leaving hulu for last. Sure enough, it was not until I got to hulu that the space bar hand/zpom stopped working. And then I went one by one, quitting each app, testing each time, again leaving hulu till the last. Sure enough again, the space bar continued not working until I quit hulu, the very last app that I had running (aside from CS5 and system processes).

Please, please do not tell me that there is a conflict between CS5 and hulu's utilization of Flash! That would just make Mad Dog Jobs' a happy camper. (I am a big supporter of Flash on the iPad).

What a relief. Except how am I now going to watch my TV shows while working???

In regards to browser conflicts, I have had none with Safari, Firefox, or Chrome.

Adobe, I hope that this information helps. Let me know if you need any info screen capped.

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I haven't got Hulu loaded on my Mac, so that's definitely not the culprit in my case.

Either way, it's damn annoying. Hasn't happened again to me since relaunching Firefox however, and, as I said in my earlier message, it had never happened before - and I use Firefox on a daily basis at work... so it may have actually just been a coincidence that it started working again then.

I'll follow this thread with interest...

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When it started happening for me, it was very, VERY random but I can't remember if I was launching and quitting hulu. Honestly, I expect this to be a fluke. Sure... today it is linked to hulu but tomorrow may not be the case. I'll just have to keep an eye on it. And I agree that it is very frustrating. Those are two huge functions for me and having to hit the "H" or "Z" key to perform the function, and then hit the key to toggle back to the previous tool is extremely disruptive.

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For me the shortcuts for pan and zoom stop working when i open firefox and log into my gmail account. As soon as i quit firefox they come back again.

It's quite annoying because i check my mail very often.

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Can those who are seeing this bug also include the Flash Player version you're running?

You can find it by going to this site:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

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I have version 10,0,42,34 installed.

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Thanks. And just for good measure, what version of Firefox are people using?

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Flash Player 10,1,52,15

Firefox 3.6.3

Just to keep you up to date, as long as I don't have Hulu Desktop running (0.9.8.2), all is well with CS5. As soon as I fire it up, the space bar hand/zoom goes away.

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I can reproduce this with Hulu Desktop. We'll be able to take it from here. Thanks for the info.

Barry

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For me its not HULU - I don't have it installed.

For me, Since I quite Dreamweaver and discovered that solved the problem. I have had PS and DW open at the same time and was working with it last night, Space Bar Hand worked perfectly.

I put the Mac to sleep last night, woke this morning. Woke it up and PS hand space not working anymore. Saw this update about Firefox (3.6.3), so I quite Firefox to test that and didn't make a difference, I closed Dreamweaver and it works fine again.

Thought Im on to something here - restart Dreamweaver though it still works.

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At this point, i suspect it's related to Flash (as others have pointed out). Hulu desktop is an AIR app running the flash player. Dreamweaver probably runs some form of flash when loaded, triggering the same bug. Using the Hulu desktop gives us a reproducible case, so we can have a developer look at it and figure out what's going on. Thanks.

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Just for the record: I use Firefox 3.6.3 and Flash Player 10,1,52,1 and I don't have Hulu installed

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using flash v. 10,1,52,15, firefox 3.6.3, OS X 10.5.8

no hulu here, but if i shut down firefox, the spacebar hand/grab tool works perfectly.

as soon as i re-launch FF, it ceases to function.

neither re-launching nor rebooting change this. :[

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+1

Quitting Dreamweaver immediately restored the spacebar functionality in Photoshop for me.

I had never even heard of Hulu until I read this thread.

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