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Color change from Premiere to PowerPoint

Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Okay, this is a weird one. About six months ago I noticed that on some (but not all) videos, the color was different in Premiere Elements (15) than what played in PowerPoint; specifically, facial tone became much paler.

Since then, when this has happened, I've adjusted "Hue", making it redder (pinker) and that essentially works. But it's tedious – I have to save/export the newly hued video, import it to PPT and play, then again and again till it's right.

Anyone have any idea what's going on?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Same computer and monitor for both?

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Yep.

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Also, I saw the "pale" videos on other monitors and they looked the same.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

My hunch is that there is a unique player in PowerPoint or it uses a different player.  One reference I found said to play videos, you need Apple's Quicktime installed.  Another reference I found was to color adjustments made in PowerPoint.

Try reading this....

https://www.indezine.com/products/powerpoint/learn/multimedia/2013/corrections-for-video.html

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Thanks. I'm very familiar with formatting videos in PowerPoint and do it all the time. The problem is that when the videos are imported now, some are "pale" and others aren't and, again, this was never a problem before last fall: I imported hundreds of videos before them and all of them looked the same in Premiere as in PowerPoint. Now, some do and some don't.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

When you finish a video in Premiere Elements it is typically a playable file, like an MP4.   What happens if you play it outside of PowerPoint in the operating system's default player.  Or, better, the free VLC player.  

Does it "look" like is is supposed to?  If yes,  the difference may be coming from PowerPoint.  If no, it is worth going over the Premiere Elements output settings, where the original clips are coming from and the characteristics of those clips.

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Good suggestions but I always play my videos in three forms: in Premiere Elements, in PowerPoint and in VLC. After the change, some videos have paler skin tones in PowerPoint and VLC than they appear to in Elements.

I haven't checked the Elements output settings because, again, nothing's changed.

I appreciate you and everyone who's made suggestions but I think this one's just too weird to figure out.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Is it correct to summarize and say what you see in the finished product via VLC is not what you are seeing in the real time preview during editing?   In other words, it has nothing to do with PowerPoint.

Would you please post the output settings?

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

What I see in Premiere is different than what I see in the finished, edited, exported clip in VLC and PPT (again, with some but not all clips).

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Community Expert ,
Feb 22, 2018 Feb 22, 2018

I'm sure you know this, but what you see while editing is a real time preview that is created so that your computer can function smoothly.  In Preferences, General there is a choice for preview render that may effect what you are seeing on your screen.  

Without knowing the source, type and content of the clips, the project settings and output settings all I can do is make guesses.  I'm sorry I can't help more.

Good luck with your future projects!

Bill

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Participant ,
Feb 22, 2018 Feb 22, 2018
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Hmm, I don't see an option for "preview render" in Edit/Preferences/General – can you tell me where it is there? But more important, can you tell me what "preview render" does that real-time preview doesn't? (I regularly render the clips while editing.)

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Is your monitor calibrated?

Are both programs using the same color space?

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Not quite sure what "color space" means but it seems like it may be on the way to an explanation. Only problem is that there was no problem before a few months ago and I haven't changed any equipment.

I'm wondering if it could be related to the videos themselves. These are clips I get from the net in various ways: YouTube, file-sharing sites, etc.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

davidm6207557  wrote

Not quite sure what "color space" means

You may want to check out some of these links:

color+space

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Participant ,
Feb 21, 2018 Feb 21, 2018

Got it but don't see specifically what to do about that in Premiere. And, more important, the key thing is that none of my default settings was changed at the time of the first appearance of this problem last fall, and I'd been using Premiere 15 for at least a year before that.

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