PE 2021: Something Strange with Pan & Zoom

Engaged ,
Nov 21, 2020 Nov 21, 2020

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Something seems to be strange with Pan & Zoom in PE 2021 compared to PE 14 (on Windows).

I have photos of landscapes (no faces).  With PE 14 I would select the clip with the image & adjust the focus frames 1 & 2.

 

With PE 2021 when I open the Pan & Zoom tool I get the two focus frames but I cannot move frame 1.

When I click on frame 1 it opens up a new frame 2 which I can move (what was frame 2 is now frame 3).

The only thing I can do with frame 1 is to delete it - then the new frame 1 (was the inserted frame 2) can be moved & resized OK.

Seems a rather odd state of affairs.  Am I missing something?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 21, 2020 Nov 21, 2020

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Nope. Adobe made the decision a few generations ago to make the tool more automatic. Much to the detriment of the tool.

 

I've created a tutorial that shows you how to work around some of those settings.

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Engaged ,
Nov 22, 2020 Nov 22, 2020

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That sounds just like what I need.

However in PE 2021 I do not see "AutoAnalyzer" under Edit / Preferences & so far have not found itz elsewhere.  The online help for Pan & Zoom shows how to set "Hold" to zero but does not mention any AutoAnalyzer option.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 22, 2020 Nov 22, 2020

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That is correct. Since I made this tutorial Adobe has removed this setting. A similar setting can be found, however, in the Organizer's preferences.

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Engaged ,
Nov 22, 2020 Nov 22, 2020

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Thanks Steve - that is very well hidden & not at all intuitive!

The idea that an setting in the organizer would affect the video editor is not obvious.

 

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You would disable the 4 items here?

 

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Engaged ,
Nov 23, 2020 Nov 23, 2020

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Unchecking the "People View Setting" had no effect.

 

What I have found is this: I select a jpg (landscape, no faces) in the timeline & open the Pan & Zoom tool.

Two focus frames appear and there are two thumbnails beneath.  If I click within focus frame #1 to try to resize or move it an additional focus frame appears as I described above.

However, if you first click on Thumbnail #1 and then within focus frame #1 the additional frame does not appear & you can move / resize focus frame #1 as in the old days.

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Engaged ,
Dec 05, 2020 Dec 05, 2020

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Having now worked on a video with many photographs added to the timeline to then have the Pan & Zoom tool applied I can only confirm Steve's view that the tool has been "negatively improved", at least over PE14.

 

One can get to where one wants but its now soooo complex compared to before - and no way apparent to turn off the accursed face recognition feature (the switch in the organizer appears to have no effect on the video editor).

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 05, 2020 Dec 05, 2020

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For what it's worth, I updated the tutorial recently for version 2021 -- although the unfortunate thing about this tool is that it's gotten more rather than less annoying in recent builds.

 

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Engaged ,
Dec 06, 2020 Dec 06, 2020

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I watched your tutorial & they really have messed the tool up.

I tried to "request a new feature" (restore ability to disable AutoAnalysis) via the link on Adobe staff member posted:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_premiere_elements

 

but when it asked me to sign in my Adobe Forum login was not accepted...

 

I think you mentioned using keyframes.  Is it worth creating a tutorial "alternative to Pan & Zoom"?

 

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