Highlighted

Premiere Elements 17 distorts timeline MTS clip

New Here ,
Aug 16, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I am working on a project including MTS files of 4 different cameras recording the same event from different angles.

With only one file I have problems:

- final approx 12 secs of 10min 39 sec clip remains empty

- total duration of clip stays roughly as original

- timeline is distorted. It speeds up at various locations (I assume it makes the actual video/audio content approx 12 sec shorter)

The source clip is okay. When I play it in Windows Media player there is no problem (no speeding up, video/audio until end).

Other MTS files of same camera are also okay.

Camera used is a Sony rx-10 iii. Files where automatically truncated during recording due to max file size (as with most other files in this project).

I tried to restart computer, restart Premiere, delete file as projectelement and add again. Moved succeeding all clips for more than 10 mins later in timeline so that there is certainly enough space and then add clip again. But no success.

Enyone who can help?

Regards,

Marcel

Views

79

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more

Premiere Elements 17 distorts timeline MTS clip

New Here ,
Aug 16, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I am working on a project including MTS files of 4 different cameras recording the same event from different angles.

With only one file I have problems:

- final approx 12 secs of 10min 39 sec clip remains empty

- total duration of clip stays roughly as original

- timeline is distorted. It speeds up at various locations (I assume it makes the actual video/audio content approx 12 sec shorter)

The source clip is okay. When I play it in Windows Media player there is no problem (no speeding up, video/audio until end).

Other MTS files of same camera are also okay.

Camera used is a Sony rx-10 iii. Files where automatically truncated during recording due to max file size (as with most other files in this project).

I tried to restart computer, restart Premiere, delete file as projectelement and add again. Moved succeeding all clips for more than 10 mins later in timeline so that there is certainly enough space and then add clip again. But no success.

Enyone who can help?

Regards,

Marcel

Views

80

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Aug 16, 2019 0
Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 17, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

First let's make sure we're comparing apples to apples.

Are all of your video sources the same format, resolution and frame rate? And at least as important, do they use the same codec?

If you want consistent performance from the program, the source video must be of consistent specs.

Open one of the video clips that works in the program in the free download MediaInfo. Set MediaInfo's View to Text and then copy the report that appears and paste it to this forum.

Do the same thing with that Sony footage. When we can compare the specs of that Sony footage to that of your other video, we'll better be able to advise you how to proceed.

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 17, 2019 0
New Here ,
Aug 17, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

Dear Steve,

Thank you for responding.

Below you find the Mediainfo output for ALL video I use.

The L00006.MTS is the one cauing the problems. The others don't.

Hope this sheds some light.

===========================

CAMERA “HAND”

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\m\Documents\Musical\Bronbestanden\Video\Hand\H00009.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 26.6 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 28.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-07-02 13:24:13-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony DSC-HX400V

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4.2

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 25.3 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 26.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.244

Stream size                              : 1.88 GiB (95%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.800000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Stream size                              : 19.5 MiB (1%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

============================================

CAMERA “LINKS”

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\m\Documents\Musical\Bronbestanden\Video\Links\L00006.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 26.6 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 28.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-07-02 20:55:17+02:00

Writing application                      : Sony DSC-RX10M3

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4.2

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 25.3 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 26.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.244

Stream size                              : 1.88 GiB (95%)

IrisFNumber                              : 3.500000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Stream size                              : 19.5 MiB (1%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 10 min 39 s

===========================================

CAMERA “MIDDEN”

General

Complete name                            : C:\Users\m\Documents\Musical\Bronbestanden\Video\Midden\MVI_5513.MOV

Format                                   : MPEG-4

Format profile                           : QuickTime

Codec ID                                 : qt   2007.09 (qt  /CAEP)

File size                                : 3.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 12 min 3 s

Overall bit rate                         : 47.2 Mb/s

Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-02 19:48:12

Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-06 11:21:03

com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Canon

com.apple.quicktime.model                : Canon EOS 700D

Video

ID                                       : 1

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : Baseline@L5

Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : No

Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame

Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12

Codec ID                                 : avc1

Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding

Duration                                 : 12 min 3 s

Bit rate                                 : 45.7 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Original height                          : 1 088 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Original display aspect ratio            : 16:9

Frame rate mode                          : Constant

Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.882

Stream size                              : 3.85 GiB (97%)

Language                                 : English

Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-02 19:48:12

Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-02 19:48:12

Color range                              : Full

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio

ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : PCM

Format settings                          : Little / Signed

Codec ID                                 : sowt

Duration                                 : 12 min 3 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Stream size                              : 133 MiB (3%)

Language                                 : English

Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-02 19:48:12

Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-02 19:48:12

==========================================

CAMERA “RECHTS”

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\m\Documents\Musical\Bronbestanden\Video\Rechts\R00000.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 30 min 25 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 9 310 kb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-07-02 19:37:24+02:00

Writing application                      : Sony FDR-AX100E

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=13

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 30 min 25 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 8 675 kb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 440 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.223

Stream size                              : 1.84 GiB (93%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.800000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 30 min 25 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -80 ms

Stream size                              : 55.7 MiB (3%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 30 min 25 s

Delay relative to video                  : -80 ms

=============================

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 17, 2019 0
Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 17, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

Which file is giving your problems?

I didn't read every single report, but most of the videos show pretty much the same specs.

If you place all of these videos end to end on the timeline of a new project, do any of them show a yellow-orange 'render' line above them?RenderLine.jpg

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 17, 2019 0
New Here ,
Aug 17, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I shortened the output file above to include only the output for one video file per camera. The one giving the problems is L00006.mts.

I read your last comment about the rendering line. There is an orange line above the tracks that does not span the entire project.

What does the orange line mean? The Adobe help is terrible. Can't find anything about it. Is it relevant to my problem?

The L00006.mts file is meant to fill the gap between L00005 and L00007 in the timeline (where the CTI is). But whenever I try to do that, that is when the distortion occurs.

screenshot.jpg

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 17, 2019 0
Ann Bens LATEST
Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 18, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

As Pr Elements cannot do spanned clips I would run the clips through Sony PlayMemory (if that is the correct name) first to stitch the clips together before bringing them into Elements.

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 18, 2019 0
Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 18, 2019

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I really can't tell what's going on from that screen shot, marcel.

Can you start a new project and place a video on the timeline on the Video 1 track? If you see no render line above it, add one clip from each camcorder to the timeline after it. Then let me know which appear with a yellow orange render line above them.

But you need to start a new project to do this experiment. Save your current project until after we figure out what's going on.

Likes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community Guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
Reply
Loading...
Aug 18, 2019 0