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I was able to download both programs on my MacBook Pro within 30 minutes a piece with no problems. I have not been successful installing them on my Mac Mini. I checked with Apple and I have all the necessary system requirements. I also downloaded the newest Sierra software. I followed adobe's troubleshooting guide--that is: turned off screen saver, turned off firewall and I don't have any Adobe Installers for this series on Applcations-utilities to uninstall. I keep getting the message that internet stopped responding after attempting the download for several hours. Anyone out there have a possible solution that I could try. Thanks, Janet
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