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Otio import and export issues

Explorer ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Premiere does not appear to correctly parse linear timewarps from OTIO imports - even it's own exports.  

e.g. -1000% is read as -123.45% when imported into premiere, but shown correctly when imported into Resolve. Also +1000% resolves to 909.09%. 

The speeds are (nearly) correct when the PP .otio export is converted to EDL with otiotool. 
This was a 23.976 sequence, using offline files, but I think the math is incorrect regardless of frame rate. 
There are discrepencies with timecode when using offline files too - e.g. sometimes the bin start is different from both the start time when it is loaded in the source monitor and when added to a sequence. Seems that the <TimecodeFormat> isn't correctly set for those masterclips. 

Screenshot 2024-12-16 at 13.48.31.png


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S7rr-lung217W7483ru7sGMGSZhk6nQY - has project and OTIO and EDL export from PPro. The EDL shows correct speeds and in points. 

EDL export from PPro

 

 

001  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:00:00:00 00:00:06:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -239.8                     01:01:59:23 

002  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:00:06:00 00:00:18:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -119.9                     01:01:59:23 

003  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:00:18:00 00:00:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -71.9                      01:01:59:23 

004  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:00:38:00 00:01:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -24.0                      01:01:59:23 

005  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:01:38:00 00:03:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -12.0                      01:01:59:23 

006  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:59:23 01:00:59:23 00:03:38:00 00:07:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 -06.0                      01:01:59:23 

007  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:07:38:00 00:11:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 006.0                      01:01:00:00 

008  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:11:38:00 00:13:38:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 012.0                      01:01:00:00 

009  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:13:38:00 00:14:38:00 

010  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:14:38:00 00:14:58:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 071.9                      01:01:00:00 

011  OFFLINE1 V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:14:58:00 00:15:04:00 
M2   OFFLINE1 239.8                      01:01:00:00 

 

 


OTIO export from PPro (converted to EDL) Speeds are *close*. Source In points are incorrect on reverse speed events (but consistent).

 

 

001  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:08:06:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:06:00
M2   Offline File 01		-239.76023976023978			01:08:00:00

002  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:08:12:00 00:00:06:00 00:00:18:00
M2   Offline File 01		-119.88011988011989			01:08:00:00

003  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:08:20:00 00:00:18:00 00:00:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		-71.92807192807193			01:08:00:00

004  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:09:00:00 00:00:38:00 00:01:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		-23.976023976023978			01:08:00:00

005  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:10:00:00 00:01:38:00 00:03:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		-11.988011988011989			01:08:00:00

006  Offline  V     C        01:08:00:00 01:12:00:00 00:03:38:00 00:07:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		-5.994005994005994			01:08:00:00

007  Offline  V     C        01:01:00:00 01:05:00:00 00:07:38:00 00:11:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		5.994005994005994			01:01:00:00

008  Offline  V     C        01:01:00:00 01:03:00:00 00:11:38:00 00:13:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		11.988011988011989			01:01:00:00

009  Offline  V     C        01:01:00:00 01:02:00:00 00:13:38:00 00:14:38:00
M2   Offline File 01		23.976023976023978			01:01:00:00

010  Offline  V     C        01:01:00:00 01:01:20:00 00:14:38:00 00:14:58:00
M2   Offline File 01		71.92807192807193			01:01:00:00

011  Offline  V     C        01:01:00:00 01:01:06:00 00:14:58:00 00:15:04:00
M2   Offline File 01		239.76023976023978			01:01:00:00

 

 

v25.2.0 beta build 54
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Adobe Employee , Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

Interesting! 

Not sure we've gotten there yet in our efforts, but we're tracking this one as DVAPR-4255386; we'll keep you informed of our progress (your email is in the bug).

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Adobe Employee ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Interesting! 

Not sure we've gotten there yet in our efforts, but we're tracking this one as DVAPR-4255386; we'll keep you informed of our progress (your email is in the bug).

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Explorer ,
Dec 16, 2024 Dec 16, 2024

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Thanks Bruce. It's still early days / up in the air how much OTIO will be used. Bit chicken/egg in that noone much will use it until it works and it won't fully work until folks use it.

 

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Dec 19, 2024 Dec 19, 2024

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@Bruce Bullis I think the otio folks have some timewarp issues anyway - https://github.com/jminor/otio-time-warp-test-suite/blob/main/README.md is where they are doing the testing. 

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Adobe Employee ,
Dec 19, 2024 Dec 19, 2024

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When you reference speed changes, you mean linear speed changes applied to the whole track item, or keyframed speed changes? 

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Dec 19, 2024 Dec 19, 2024

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The simple test I did was 1 simple linear / constant speed change per clip (i.e. command / control + J)

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