Premier Pro Beta Export and Color Grade on adjustment layers

[dandeliondrones]

After my color grade was done and all the "sauce" was added ( a lot of work)

 I went to export my completed project....and "error compiling" persisted. I played around with export settings (hardware encoding / software encoding/render max depth etc), and only 18 seconds of my 32-second video would export. 

I got frustrated and decided to give the app a rest and try later. After closing Premier Pro Beta I noticed an update was available to Beta 25.0. So I updated all my beta apps and took a break. 

Now I'm here several hours later. I noticed the clips are now rounded vs square, but you can't export a video. Furthermore, all my log clips are color-graded on adjustment layers on top of the log clips (as normal) but the clips are still in log with the "gray" look. My dji clips are also color-graded and the adjustment layers are showing the color grade as normal. 

Why is this so frustrating? Can you fix this issue please? I'm on a deadline. Pics are attached to help facilitate a solution. 

[Ann Bens]

Please read the second to last sentence

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-discussions/beta-version-25-out-now/m-p/14781278#M9...

Best to revert to 2024.

Open a New Premiere Pro Project on an Older Version -Mac - YouTube

Open a New Premiere Pro Project on an Older Version - Windows - YouTube

[Alexis Van Hurkman]

Sorry you're having a bad time, and as Ann suggests, I think you'll be better served by reverting to v24 since your project was completed there.

However, I wanted to get more detail on one of the issues you mention; is the issue that the non DJI clips you graded don't look correct in the Program Monitor of the new version? Or is the problem that the thumbnails in the timeline don't look right but the clips look as they should in the Program Monitor? From the photos you provided it's difficult to know if the clips in the monitor look right as they appear normalized.

[dandeliondrones]

Yeah, I thought my iPhone would re-saturate the log clip.

The issue is not the program monitor or the appearance the clips.

That all looks fine.

Issue:

The timeline includes drone clips and camera clips. Both are shot in log.

The timeline has been color-graded with 2 adjustment layers per clip.

The bottom adjustment layer is the LUT (Creative Panel - strength 50)

The top adjustment layer is the Basic Correction (Saturation / Exposure / Contrast etc)

The project was finished (everything graded - camera and drone clips looked good) and ready for export and delivery to the client.

Then the export issue arose. After updating to Beta 25. I came back to try the export again and now….


The drone clips are showing fine on the timeline and program monitor (as they should their graded)

However, the camera clips, although they’re graded as well (2 adjustment layers).

Are showing on the timeline and in the program monitor as if they’re in log (still grayed out) and not graded at all.

But, again, they are graded. In my picture I wanted you to see the 2 adjustment layers with the Lumetri Panel showing that they indeed have

been graded but, remain “grayed” out. However, my iPhone resaturated the image.

And the export issue still remains.


ian fenderbosch

[dandeliondrones]

I also tried to back track to Premier Pro 24.6 and I cannot because of Beta 25.

Brother, I really need help. I love Adobe but, dang…..


ian fenderbosch

[dandeliondrones]

I hate I'm blowing ya'll up like this. 

After spending more time looking at this issue.
I’ve noticed some new things. I think I originally advised you wrong.

The camera log footage is NOT responding correctly.

The drone footage IS responding correctly. 

When I remove my 2 color graded adjustment layers.
I’m now left with my original log footage on the timeline.
It’s super bright in the program monitor. Way too bright and “grayed” out for log footage.
Meaning, it’s not displaying the camera log footage properly in the program monitor in Beta v25 to begin with.

But, it is displaying the drone log footage correctly. 

I’ve probably edited 25ish projects using Beta. So I have a decent idea of what color grade formula works for my videos.
Bottom adjustment layer - Lumetri panel (Creative - LUT - strength 50)
Top adjustment layer - Lumetri panel (Basic Correction - Saturation/Exposure/Contrast etc)
I also use the curves for shadows and highlights.

When applying my normal application of color grade on 2 adjustment layers in Beta 25. It’s so far off. It’s not even funny.
I even pushed the creative LUT to 111 and it’s still not right. It's still "grayed" out. 
When working properly 111 would be sooooo saturated. Heck, even at 80 it's to saturated and usable. 

Lastly, I was advised to revert to v24. I followed the instructions of the YouTube for a Macs.

I cannot do so. I guess once a year ya'll make it where we can't go back.

I wish I would've never updated to beta 25. This started with an export issue in Beta 24.

After I cooled off about the export issue in Beta 24, I could've used Media Encoder. I had some options bc my color grade was still intact.

Now it's a dumpster fire. Here's the 18 sec export of the 32 sec video. Hopefully, you can see what I'm saying between camera and drone clips.

Each of the clips have been graded the same. Only minor differences in the sliders is based on lighting. 

https://youtu.be/jMtVmn5J6mI 

[Alexis Van Hurkman]

My sympathies, we've all been there. I'll inquire with the engineering team to see if there is some recourse for moving your project back to the previous version of Premiere. I can't promise you anything, but we'll see what can be done.

In the meantime, could you duplicate your project, delete all but 4-5 clips and their accompnaying adjustment layers in a single sequence that include clips that respond correctly and clips that don't respond correctly, delete all other sequences, and upload that project and the corresponding media files so we can have a look? Version 25 introduces a significant new color management system, and while it's been created to import previous projects with the original color, and I've just now tested LUTs in adjustment layers to verify that this isn't broken, it may be that the LUT you used in the adjustment layers for the clips that aren't being converted correctly somehow got lost.

You may check those LUTs, maybe re-load them, see if that solves your issue. Otherwise, please upload the simplified project I've requested and we'll have a look.

Again, sorry to hear you're having a hard time.

[Alexis Van Hurkman]

Also, upload the entire project...

[dandeliondrones]

Thanks for your heart in this!

You nailed it….the color management system!

When color grading in Beta v24. I began to say to myself “did I mistake the exposure this bad in camera?”

But, I took the blame and kept it moving.

I began turning down creative LUT power to 40 (instead of 50-55), the whites to -10, exposure to -.01 and still

had sections of the image I didn’t like. But, again I told myself “dude, you gotta do better"


When the new Beta 25 came out I said “no way this is right!”

But Beta 25 color management is right (or improved).

The Beta v24 was off, way off, and I got used to it.


After calming down (I have a full day into this now) I went back to the YouTube link you sent me and I don’t know

what the difference was….but, on my 5th attempt I got it to open up an older version of Premier, not Beta and saw the color

management in the older Premier Pro was the same as Beta 25v.


That’s when it hit me! Beta 24 was off and I had gotten used to it. It wasn’t my filming techniques.

I continued fixing the color grading in Premier.


As far as the export compiling error, I had to remove my effects which

diminished the transition. But, hey, I have a completed video that’s ready to send to the client.


I understand this is a complex arena.

Ya’ll have a lot to track and understand with all the different camera’s and technology.

Thanks for helping me along the way the best you could. Much love, in Jesus name.



ian fenderbosch

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[Alexis Van Hurkman]

Hey Ian, that's great news and I'm glad the new color management worked out for you. Now that you're getting used to the v25 lifestyle, you might want to check out the beta documentation explaining what's new in CM at https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/color-management-improvements.html.

The "Direct Rec.709 (SDR)" preset is the safest one to use at the moment, and keep in mind that the new color management system is still in development so things may change a bit when you upgrade the public beta, which might include how certain effects render and how media looks, but otherwise we spent a lot of time making sure that legacy projects would open up and look right, so I'm still interested in seeing your original project to see what looked different.

However, I'm really happy you got your project working using our new system. Cheers!

[dandeliondrones]

Wow, that’s impressive updates!

I guess I should check out the community more often.


I would love to show you the example of my completed project in Beta 24.

Until we found out the issue. There was nothing more than I wanted to pull up that project.

But, after I updated to Beta 25, it was like there was no going back. Auto save wouldn’t open it again in Beta 24

I don’t know how I could send you the color example of Beta 24v.

I hope I’m not misunderstanding something. But these updates sound incredible. And I’m ready to dive in!





ian fenderbosch