What's the use of new colorspaces in footage?

[Shebbe]

I see Adobe added a bunch of Sony and Canon log camera spaces to the override list in interpret footage.

What is really the use for this when there is still no full manual colormanagement.

Why would I want to do a straight conversion from say Sgamut/Slog to rec.709/2.4 without any tonemapping whatsoever and have half of my image clipped.

And why only a selective list of overrides? Where is RedWideGamut/Log3G10, ARRI LogC/ARRI Wide Gamut, sRGB, Display P3, AdobeRGB, ACEScg, etc etc...

If the idea is to give users more control give us all control, not this. Separating colorspace and gamma choices for that would also make a lot more sense.

Ultimately support for OCIO natively and accelerated for both AE and Premiere would be the best to ever happen.

[Shebbe]

Oh and why only for fileformats where Premiere detects it's from a Sony/Canon camera?

Why not for any file format?

[R Neil Haugen]

These are 'over-rides' ... changes to what we'd prefer if PrPro doesn't do what we want as the default. As they get some of these other gamuts tested in-house, they're adding them to the list for use to check out. They need feedback on whether these actually correctly re-draw the image. Or not.

It's piecemeal because they are running them out for testing as they get them.

So it seems they hope we try them out, and see if the transforms come even close to what we need. You're right, for actually working them as many of us would like, we would need those manual controls for gamut matching. Which we don't have yet.

And some media is handled through the Source clip settings which is where say the RED media is controlled. So it's this odd some is "here" and some "there" sort of thing at the moment. I've already noted this is darn confusing to the user but supposedly it will somehow be unified and make sense at some point.

Neil