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Multi-Cam Preview Monitor doesn't scale footage properly

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Several people have posted about this problem, but for years nothing seems to have been done, so I'm adding it as a bug.

 

4K Multi-Cam clips appear zoomed in when working in a HD sequence. 4K>HD is a common workflow, not an edge case, and therefore this should be fixed. Resizing hundreds of multi-cam clips isn't a solution.

 

Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 17.13.10.png

 

 

 

 

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Adobe Employee , Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

Are you making use of either 'scale to frame size', or 'fit to frame size'?

https://premierepro.net/scale-frame-size-vs-fit-frame-size/

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Adobe Employee ,
Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Are you making use of either 'scale to frame size', or 'fit to frame size'?

https://premierepro.net/scale-frame-size-vs-fit-frame-size/

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Hi again Bruce - sorry, I keep running in to bugs today, so having a bit of a rant 😉 

 

I'm aware it's possible to resize a 4K Multi-Cam sequence down to HD, setting each layer to 'Set to Frame Size'. It's a fine workaround if the project only contains a few sequences, but I have hundreds. This has been an issue for years & years, I think it should be fixed. 

 

Dan

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Confirming desired behavior: When you nest a multicam, you want PPro to scale all the cameras within that multicam, based on the settings of the sequence containing the multicam sequence?


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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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I believe what you're describing is what Premiere is doing currently. Which is wrong. The Preview Monitor's purpose is to preview what's inside the Multi-Cam, without the timeline having any effect over it.

 

 

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Monitoring a 4K Multi-Cam clip inside a HD timeline should look like this 

Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 22.36.06.png

Not this

Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 22.36.21.png

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Likewise, monitoring a HD Multi-Cam clip, inside a 4K timeline shouldn't look like this either.

Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 22.39.43.png

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LEGEND ,
Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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I think Bruce asked whether you had your Preferences option set to either Set to framesize or Scale to framesize, and your response seems like you were thinking of that as a timeline-applied option.

 

So what is your Preferences set to ... None, Scale to, or Set to?

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Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Hi Neil. My preferences are set to none.

 

My issue though is with the Multi-Cam Preview Monitor, the way it displays clips when there's a size mismatch between the Multi-Cam clip and the Timeline. i.e. 4K vs HD.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 25, 2024 Mar 25, 2024

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Which is exactly what the Framesize choice handles ... so have you tried setting that to Set To framesize, then creating a multicam? As changing a pref only affects things created after you change the pref.

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Thanks for your help Neil but as far as I can tell Framesize has no effect on the Preview Monitor. Just did a quick test, set prefs to Set to Framesize, imported media, created Multi-Cam, same issue.

 

Great tip for dealing with the mismatch in the Program Montior though.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Thanks for the clarification ... I wasn't sure if you meant program monitor or source monitor. Like Resolve, for some things Premiere hath its own terminology.

 

And yes, the Source monitor is "pre" things applied in Sequences. But the "multicam" is sort of a clip in some ways in Premiere, sort of a sequence in others. Which can be durn confusing at times.

 

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Ah, sorry Neil. Think i may have confused Bruce as well. Bug reporting is definately not my strong suit

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LEGEND ,
Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Hey, no problem!

 

I work both in Premiere and Resolve. What an odd ... difference.

 

Adobe's documentation tends to be mainly a series of points as to the 'direct' function of something as seen when in "most common use", perhaps. But ... it doesn't give full details, and never gives the interactive issues when "this" is coupled with other effects in different workflows with other things.

 

BM's Resolve manual ... over four thousand pages of it! ... goes to the other extreme. It is loaded with tons of this when there but not here stuff. BUT ... there is no index, and BM uses a ton of specialied, BM-only nomenclature.

 

So ... for many, many things, if you don't know exactly the correctly approved BlackMagic word for a process or tool, well ... good luck finding that buried in that massive manual!

 

I keep hoping for a more practical middle ground ... sigh.

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