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2.4:1 anamorphic footage desqueezed in project panel showing as cropped 16:9 in source panel

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Nov 04, 2024 Nov 04, 2024

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Anamorphic footage desqueezed in the project panel (using 'Transform' effect) is showing as cropped 16:9 in the source panel, even though it shows correctly on a 2.4:1 timeline.

Wierder still is that when I apply a mask to the anamorphic footage, the mask adhears to the squeezed portion of the image only - ie the 2.4:1 image is only masked where the 16:9 squeeze was and the desqueezed bits stick out!!!

 

I have no idea what is going on, as it defies basic logic. 

 

Can anyone help???

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Nov 04, 2024 Nov 04, 2024

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Please use the free MediaInfo and post a screenshot of the properties of your media in tree view:
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

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Here's the media info - 'Tree view' didn't fit on the screen, so I hope Text view suffices.

 

It's ProresHQ shot in 3:2 full frame using Siuri 50mm anamorphic (1.6x squeeze), recorded on a Ninja V.

 

I don't usually use the PP opacity tools, as I do all that sort of thing in AE normally. It seems that the opacity tools are only 'seeing' the original ratio. I'm stumped!

 

Thanks for any help.

 

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The Source panel does not show 'de-squeeze' ... it only shows the original 'unchanged' image. Without interpretation of the pixel aspect ratio.

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Thanks, Neil. Can you confirm that the source panel also ignores any transform effect applied in the project panel?

The second part of my original question is more confounding - I can cope with the source panel only showing original state, but once in the timeline, why would the opacity effects not adhere to the shape of footage there?

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The timeline issue may be dependent on how ... and when ... the effects are applied. Processing order can be crucial. And sometimes to get the correct processing, you have to apply something, nest, then apply the next effect.

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At the moment the only effect applied is Transform in the project panel. The clip in question shows as expected in the timeline, until I apply a mask from the opacity settings in the effects control panel. At that point it just goes wierd, with an apparent crop occuring within the clip. If I delete the mask, the whole image reappears, uncropped.

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