Audio waveform hard to read since 24.5 update (not colours)

[PG73]

Since updating from 24.3 to 24.5 the audio waveform is much harder to read. I have changed to the  'classic' colours and understand the audio colour can be changed to a darker colour to invert the waveform back closer to how it was before this update.

However, what is going on with the waveform scale, alignment and white space? Comparing the waveforms above, which are of the exact same audio, the 24.5 version on the right looks really small and squashed with the left and right audio not having equal height, and there seems to be empty space at the top of the waveform now.

I would really struggle to edit with the new waveform design as I can barely make anything out. It is even worse if I untick 'Logarithmic Waveform Scaling'. Surely this must be a bug, as I can not imagine this is the intended design.

Is anyone else seeing this issue with the new waveform design? And to reiterate, I am not talking about the colours.

[R Neil Haugen]

You need to make track height presets, which can be popped by keyboard shorts. Then you can get the track heights back where you can see stuff.

Sorry you need to do this, but they "improved things!" for us a bit too much, perhaps ...

[PG73]

Thank you R Neil Haugen, I will give that a try when I install the update again, I had to revert to an older version. I was worried I would be stuck trying to edit with that "improvement"!

Do you have before and after images to show the difference in doing that? Thanks.

[R Neil Haugen]

PG73 ...

Don't know why you'd need examples. It's so fast to simply drag to a new height and see what you think yourself. Not so pleased we need to do this now, but among all the other pains in the Universe, it ain't huge either.

Tom ... you might feel better, but I gotta tell you, the comment just looked well ... silly.

You don't like something, so what, you think everyone is just like you? Well, I'm not a fan of this change either.

But I can realize that there are tons of others who loved the changes. No accounting for tastes it seems, but there it is. I think thee & me is rather outnumbered over the entire user base.

It's like some of the color changes I've wanted for years. Well, they're not something that the devs think enough people would even use, or at least, correctly. So I've been told don't count on 'em.

Because my wants ain't what the vast majority of users would even understand. I get that. Don't like it but I understand.

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi @PG73,

Thanks for the message. Sorry for the annoyance on the updated feature. The team is looking into improving the design. In the meantime, I'll move this post to the Discussions forum. Feel free to also file a feature request in the Ideas forum, if you like. I appreciate your comments.

Thanks,
Kevin

[PG73]

R Neil Haugen, sorry I didn't realise you meant to just increase the height of that track, that is not the issue, I tried that and unless I make the track an inch high it is hard to make anything out. The issue is what is going on within the track as I explained in my post. That is why I wanted to see examples, to see if it was perhaps just an issue I'm having. 

[R Neil Haugen]

You might be more comfortable with turning off 'rectified' waveforms. At least that gets the waveform back up in the middle of the track. Not ... ideal, shall we say ... but ... ah well.

[Tom Fewchuk]

Lol how do you know that the vast majority of users want that? When has Adobe ever provided real data / survey information to show that majority of people want anything? They just make changes, many people complain about it (yes, this could be skewed for only people who find it annoying, but still that's all we have), and then they ignore us.

The solution to basically every new design feature they want to add is just to make both options available in a menu. Let the 'majority of users' use the new design but still leave the old design as an option.

[R Neil Haugen]

I'm aware of several different sets of users. And simply watch how and what others do and say.

You do have a clue that the only people writing here are unhappy, right?  That the vast majority of those who are either fine with, or indifferent to, a change, will never comment about it online?

When they make changes it's pretty easy to gage response across the base by how many additional posts happen on the change. Some changes have gad massive discussions, some fairly major, some a lot less than you'd think.

I was actually expecting a lot more complaints about the waveforms changes. Which personally I do NOT like. Some of my experienced acquaintances initially howled, but surprised me by testing some custom presets, and ... LOVE it!

Ah well. We are all different.

[Tom Fewchuk]

Yes I mentioned that exact point in my comment above that only people annoyed about it will leave feedback, but as I already said, it's the best concrete evidence that all people can see, not just anecedotes of acqueaintances. 

Anyway, hopefully all these comments will get more people looking at it so they can upvote this backwards change