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Having trouble viewing color space for clips in project panel.

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Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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Hi folks. So I know that I can right click clips in the Project Panel, and then select Properties in order to view the color space of the clips. I know that I can also see this info by right clicking>Modify>Color..." in order to view the color space as well as change it, if I choose". My issue is that I am trying to get a Metadata Display panel in this bin in project panel that will show me this, but I cannot figure out what to select. Please see attached screenshot. When I search "color" in the Metadata Display panel, the two selected options that you will see are the only things that pop up that I thought could possible give me the info that I am looking for. So I selected those just to see, but unfortunately the result was that both of those fields were blank in my project panel for all of these clips. Please forgive me if I am displaying some ignorance here, as I am kind of new to this.

 

As always thanks so much in advance for your help.

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Adobe Employee , Feb 14, 2024 Feb 14, 2024

@Jeena22389650a1ho Those color space fields you are enabling will only show the color space of your footage if the material has that specific type of XMP metadata schema and property present. Unfortunately for most if not all video files that will not be the case. We don't yet have a "Color Space" field for the main Premiere Pro Project Metadata.

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LEGEND ,
Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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I've not tried this eminently sensible step. And am at a tablet, not my computer to even be able to test.

 

Maybe @Bruce Bullis or @Fergus H could give an idea? @mattchristensen ?

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Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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I just added them also, and they are all empty in the display

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LEGEND ,
Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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Thanks for testing!

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Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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@MyerPj @R Neil Haugen 

 

Thanks for testing @MyerPj . I'm curious what you folks think about this. Is this some kind of bug or something?

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LEGEND ,
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There are some data fields that Premiere doesn't seem to access correctly if at all. So ... that's a bit frustrating.

 

And then, some cameras include lens data (as say "85mm Sigma") and exposure data for stills shot with that camera, but don't put such data in the video files they make.

 

And there's like three different 'date' fields ... which may be the day shot, the exact time shot, the day 'created' which might be when uploaded to the computer ... and so often the "wrong" date field gets used.

 

But I think we all would want the color space data, if the camera puts that in an Exif field ... to be usable in Premiere's metadata panel.

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hmm, interesting, if not a bit disheartening. I'm curious about your last thought. I am still a total noob with this colorspace stuff...So you're saying you'd want the meta display to be able to actually show the color space data IF the camera puts it in an Exif field...is there a reason you've made this distinction? Can the color space not be confidently determined by premiere if it was not explicitly reported in EXIF by the camera at the time of capture? Also I take your "eminently sensible" commentary as a source of pride! Maybe i'm learning a thing or two, hah!

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The file header will have the color space listed in the technical data. And Premiere does see and use that. Go to the clips in the Project panel/bin, right-click, Properties. You'll see the data there that Premiere 'sees' for the file properties.

 

However, that color space is not necessarily included in an Exif field ... there are several quite specific forms of metadata that may be in various files, depending on what the camera maker's choose to set up. And of course, as you peruse those when modifying the Metadata bar display in the List view of the Project panel, you can see a couple hundred potential fields that might be of use.

 

For instance, my BMPCC4K can be set for Reel, Shot, Take, and a Notes field from the camera. But most DSLRs and mirrorless cameras don't allow the user to set all those fields. And Premiere does see those fields, and will display them if you add them to the bar of displayed metadata.

 

There is also the big metadata workspace in Premiere, which shows a lot of things, and allows users to set properties to mulitple fields across multiple files in batches. Many users don't even know it's there, let alone use it.

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I spent quite some time trying to find a field like that. I opened a file in Advance Renamer which allows you to rename files on Exif information. And there were no color  space info from my AX53, a Canon mirrorless and an A7iii. So, I guess the software has to figure it out somewhere else. I also used ExifToolGui with the latest version of ExifTool.

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@Jeena22389650a1ho Those color space fields you are enabling will only show the color space of your footage if the material has that specific type of XMP metadata schema and property present. Unfortunately for most if not all video files that will not be the case. We don't yet have a "Color Space" field for the main Premiere Pro Project Metadata.

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