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Help! Push transition makes the clip that pushes the first one away black.

Community Beginner ,
Apr 24, 2018 Apr 24, 2018

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I have googled the heck out of this but to no avail. When I apply the push transition, the second clip does not appear to push the first out of the way; instead, a black screen pushes the first clip out of the way until the screen is completely black, then it pops into the second clip. I have no idea why. A little while back, it applied keyframes that made the video black for a second even without a transition, but I deleted those and it came back, but the push transition is still not working. I think it would look really good for this project so I could use some help.

This only happens between some of the clips, it's working in other places.

Also if someone could tell me how to add a motion blur to a push transition that would be very helpful as well.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 24, 2018 Apr 24, 2018

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I haven't used that in a while but it might be that you don't have "handles" on the beginning of that second clip.

Many transitions are built on having extra frames of the clip before and after the bit used in the sequence that are used for in and out transitions.

So if there aren't maybe 20-30 frames or so of unused clip before the in point of the second clip, there's maybe nothing to transition. Same for the out side of the first clip.

But again, I've not used that for a while, and might be completely wrong.

Neil

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Apr 24, 2018 Apr 24, 2018

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Thanks for responding!

I have indeed checked and there are handles on my footage, quite long ones. So I don't know what the problem is.

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Guide ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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Perhaps there’s a small space between clips? Or is there a nested sequence in there somewhere? Can you please upload a screenshot of your sequence, please zoom into the clips quite tight to show us in detail. It would also be useful to see the program monitor and effect control panel in another screen shot

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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I don't see a space between the clips. I don't recalling nesting anything technically, but it is a Multicam sequence. But that shouldn't matter because on a different cut on the same sequence it works, right?

Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 5.04.19 PM.pngScreen Shot 2018-04-25 at 5.02.46 PM.png

@carlosz13485882 made something that looks even better than push, but I haven't been able to get that to work either. I've never worked with adjustment layers before, in fact this is my first project on Premiere Pro. I get the adjustment layer right above the cut, but when I try to adjust the offset controls it doesn't affect the clips. It doesn't work with the normal motion effects either (I am using a keyframe, moving the time bar, then changing the values which creates another keyframe like in the video). But I just tried putting a solarize on there and that worked, so I'm not sure why the adjustment layer is not functioning like it seems to in the video. Any help with that would be appreciated as well because Carlos' transition looks way more professional than just push and I think it would impress my potential boss for whom I'm doing this project.

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Guide ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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I think the issues are due to it being a multi cam sequence. Perhaps you can release it from being a Multicam sequence once you’ve made the cuts, then you should be able to add a Push or the nice effect that’s carlos showed?

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Guide ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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After you have recorded the edits you should be able to add Adjustment layers. I’ll test it out tomorrow for you. It’s late here 🙂

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Community Expert ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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For position and scale, a transform effect should be added to the

adjustement andckeyframe those parameters there.

Dunno why the offset is not working maybe sharing a screenshot is good

Late here as well sorry for the late replies

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 6.58.07 PM.png

I really don't get it. I've got the keyframes and the variable set. I even went so far as to pull those little lines out that create the little curve graph, but no movement at all.

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Guide ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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It looks like you have two of the same MC clip in the timeline. Have you tried it with two different shots? Also, have you tried it on a non-MC timeline to check if it works there?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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It was one long MC clip that I cut and trimmed to make the shot work. If you look closely at one of the pictures you can tell that the preview shows the push transition part of the way through functionally, but not in the program window. I just tried switching to a different camera on one side and lo and behold push worked. The offset in the adjustment layer did not though. But the thing is there is another place in this sequence that I use the same camera on both sides of the divide and push works there. Its just particular spots where it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. I just tried both effects on a non MC timeline and push works and the offset adjustment layer doesn't (it was the same camera shot). So do you have any idea why it would work in one place in the sequence and not in another place in the same sequence?

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Guide ,
Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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I thinks it’s because your sequence is a Multicam sequence. I need to experiment t with it which I’ll try to do later today. But yes, particularly if you have two adjacent clips from the same source in Multicam, I’m not that surprised that it may have issues processing that.

you know you can release it from being aN MC sequence once you e finished the edit right? Let me know if you need help with this.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 24, 2018 Apr 24, 2018

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Hi , prepared this :

push transition comp on Vimeo

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Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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Wow! That looks beautiful! I'll definitely see if I can get it to work. That looks so much better than Push anyway.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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great... let me know if you need help

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Community Expert ,
Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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Hello all,

if you can help us here, I had remote access to psylighter system

I applied an adjustment layer over a clip and over a solid layer to test

on the adjustment i applied 'Transform'.. worked with the properties

and nothing worked... i tried offset, same result, tried fast color correction

and nothing of the properties is working

psylighter will share his system specs with you if anybody can help working out this problem,

it seems that adjustment layers are not working properly on the layers beneath as they should

in normal workflows that I do everyday on my system, but i have not yet updated to latest 2018

so maybe there is a bug with the latest update ?

he has Open Cl working

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Apr 25, 2018 Apr 25, 2018

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1: macOS Sierra 2: 12.1.0 Build 186 3: (Mac mini) Processor: 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5 Memory: 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 Graphics: Intel Iris 1536 MB 4: .R3D, MP4 and MXF.

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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Have you tried it on a regular sequence that is not Multicam? Have you tried releasing the sequence from being an MC sequence before attempting it?

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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yes we tried on a separate clip (not nested)

I updated to latest cc 2018 on a windows 7 ultimate service pack 1, tested adjustment with

transform and offset applied, everything works perfectly !

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Guide ,
Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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Great, fglad we figure it out. I thought it was probably related to it being a nested MC sequence.

can you please mark the correct answer to help others find the solution easily. Thanks 🙂

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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Well I still haven't solved the problem on my project. Even crossfades are dipping to black at some connections for some reason, but there are plenty of transitions that are working perfectly fine using the same shot in the Multicam sequence so I really don't know what's going on.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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Cross-fades dipping to black is often that ol' not enough 'handles' thing ... did you check that?

Neil

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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This is odd, I've just built a Multicam sequence and added a Push transition and an Adjustment layer with Overlay applied and both work fine.

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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Have you checked there is enough footage to create the handles you need as Neil has suggested?

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Apr 26, 2018 Apr 26, 2018

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theangietaylor​ yes I checked that for him while I had remote access to his pc

there is something wrong that we did not yet figure out what's the specific problem

inside his workflow, im gonna have access again and try deleting media cache and

project previews when the guy replies back and approves this procedure

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