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How do you reveal an image with a mask without moving the mask?

New Here ,
Nov 10, 2022 Nov 10, 2022

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I created a little rectangualar shape in the bottom right of a video. I want to reveal the arrow (png) as it moves upwards from the bottom of the shape and stops in the middle. 

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I've created the mask, but moving the position arrows also moves the mask. I've tried using the transform effect, but it cuts the arrow off - both on top and below when I change the transform's position (shown below). Can someone please help me?   

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Nov 10, 2022 Nov 10, 2022

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Deselect everything, and delete all masks.

take the Pen or Rectangle tool to draw a filled shape

where you want the arrow to appear.

Let's say your arrow is on Video 1, put the shape right 

above it on Video 2 track on the timeline.

Apply a Track Matte Key effect on the arrow clip and

set Matte to video 2.

Now moving your arrow will make it appear only when it 

is inside the shape you drew.

Hope it helps, if no let me know to prepare a short video.

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New Here ,
Nov 11, 2022 Nov 11, 2022

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Hi Carlos,

This doesn't seem to be working for me. I've created a shape, and placed it on the track above the arrow. It's a bit of an odd shape, but it covers the section where I want the arrow to appear.

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I'll apply the track matt key to the arrow and set the matte to the layer above the arrow. 

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For whatever reason, it's cutting some of the arrow off even though the shape is more than big enough to emcompass the entire arrow. Even when I have reserve selected: 

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None of the other masks are interfereing with that area.

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It's also not cutting it off like it should. Any ideas?

 

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Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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remove all masks.. only work with shapes and track Matte

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Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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Track Matte Key behaves a bit odd in Premiere compared to After Effects. Since Motion propeties are applied last in the effects order the Track Matte will still move with any motion animations you do. You can get around that by using the Offset effect for Position, and the Transform Effect for Scale. You'd apply that on your arrow footage, not the track matte key, which should have no animation/adjustments on it.

 

Note that you could also use the Offset/Transform effect in this way using your original mask approach, although typically this would be a Track Matte setup.

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Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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sometimes Track Matte misbehaves due to renderers, so you may also

consider switching renderer to software only in project settings,

or 

Try to change Video Preview settings in Sequence Settings to QuickTime ProRes

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Community Expert ,
Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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AnnBens_0-1669042661868.png

Arrow is a png, but you can make that too in the EGP.

Outside images used in the EGP do not have the mask feature: hence the crop

I animated the crop too but you can make it static.

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Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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You can do this much more simply.

 

Yes, delete all masks and other track stuff. Work ONLY with the graphic item you already have.

 

In the same graphic element as your arrow, add a rectangle that is above the arrow in the EGP layer stack.

 

Set it to mask with object.

 

Position the top so it just sits at the line where you want the arrow to appear.

 

Move the arrow down under it, then animate the arrow.

 

Only 2 items needed are the arrow and the rectangle shape used as a mask, both in the one EGP graphics item.

 

Neil

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Nov 18, 2022 Nov 18, 2022

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Sounds like a workable solution to me.

 

Have you tried this, @Jack24443636o995?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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the problem is that the arrow he is using is not a graphic element but a png instead,

and that is the cuplrit, if it was a graphic element all our suggested solutions would have worked.

(graphic created inside premiere pro)

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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What is the definition of a graphic element? A PSD or AI file?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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@Richard van den Boogaard  we are talking about graphic clips created inside Premiere Pro

what is the definition of reading a post from the start?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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Slow down, there @Carlos Ziade. I am only trying to be helpful. Just like the rest of us here...

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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@Richard van den Boogaard 

you wrote: 'What is the definition of a graphic element? A PSD or AI file?'

this does not seem to be 'helpful'

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Community Expert ,
Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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@R Neil Haugen 

Feature Request?

I tried track matte and never got it to work properly as it works with graphic clips.

Your suggestion, which is better, only works with graphic clips as well, but not with external assets.

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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Works perfectly with png files ... apply them from the Edit tab of the Essential Graphics panel, the "add item" icon. The "from file" option or however they word that.

 

I do this regularly without a problem.

 

Neil

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Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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yeah works perfectly, so then we have a problem when these same assets are imported from the project panel.

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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Instead of trying to solve this in Premiere Pro, which is made for Non-Linear Editing of video assets, consider doing motion graphics work in After Effects and use dynamic linking to be able to communicate back and forth between PPro and Ae.

 

After Effects was made for this stuff.

 

Why make life harder when you can make it easier/faster?

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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Instead of trying to solve this in Premiere Pro, which is made for Non-Linear Editing of video assets, consider doing motion graphics work in After Effects and use dynamic linking to be able to communicate back and forth between PPro and Ae.

 

After Effects was made for this stuff.

 

Why make life harder when you can make it easier/faster?


By @Richard van den Boogaard

 

I disagree. You can do a lot in Premiere.

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Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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I agree with Ann, for simple things like that I prefer to do it in Pr instead of going back and forth between 2 apps, especially that dynamic link is problematic sometimes.

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