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20670798023906244ih4y
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April 5, 2022
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I need my captions in to sit lower in the frame.

  • April 5, 2022
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Hi

 

I've been using the captioning tool in the latest verison of premiere, and the tool won't allow the captions to sit at the base of the frame. I userstand that this is perhaps in place to provide best practice for broadcast specs, however I am following a digital styleguide and they need to sit lower for our purposes. Will this be updated in the next version? It's quite frustrating.

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Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity Expert
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April 5, 2022

Nesting will work for burned in captions. See "To Adjust Caption Track Position" in this post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-workaround-nesting-to-apply-effect-controls-to-caption-track/td-p/11935335

 

The new caption workflow (PR 2020 and newer) improved the actual caption adjust to 10%, but by changing the caption track to be a non-Video track, removed the ability to apply effect controls/positioning.

 

Stan

 

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20670798023906244ih4yAuthor
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April 5, 2022

Thank you Warren, appreciate the workaround but sadly I think this method will take longer for me than creating an essential GFX track. Thank you Stan, but I have tried the method of creating a nest while turning visability off other layers. Unfortunatley the result is that the nest still includes the layers I have turned off.

 

Really hope adobe gets rid of this annoying margin in their next update!

Warren Heaton
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Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
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April 5, 2022

Once you have the script installed and are familiar with the process, it takes five minutes.

 

The margins are there for a good reason.  Even for non-broadcast, you'd want to keep 4% from the edges of the frame.

 

 

Warren Heaton
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Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
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April 5, 2022

You can export the transcription from Premiere Pro as a SRT file and then use the free After Effects SRT Importer Script from Digital Anarchy (https://digitalanarchy.com/demos/SRT-importer.html) to import it into After Effects.  

 

 

In After Effects, the script automatically creates a Text Layer that has all of the captions and can be customized (in this case, positioned at the base of the frame).  You can finish in After Effects or send the Composition back to Premiere Pro via Dyanmic Link or a Motion Graphics Template.

 

 

 

 

 

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ah.photo
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April 5, 2022

@20670798023906244ih4y 

 

I recall this topic of conversation coming up a few times, and no, I don't believe it is possible to move captions content any lower than the SMPTE safe boundary it respects, at least not yet.

 

Since you're making open subtitles (assumedly) I think you could create a sequence with ONLY the captions in it (you can place your edit in for reference, but mute all AV tracks when you're done making the subtitles), and then you can place your nest on top of your primary sequence. From there, you can use the Position paramater of the nest to move the subtitles even lower than typically allowed. Either that, or you'd have to use standard Premiere Graphics, but the former may be easier.

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    20670798023906244ih4yAuthor
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    April 5, 2022

    Thank you, appreciate your help!

    Unfortunately nesting for captions alone doesn't seem to be an option. Right clicking on the selected clips don't bring up the regular menu and in the drop-down, the option to nest is greyed out.

     

    When you add another video track, nesting is allowed but obviously this will add a black background to the nest, making the captions unusuable. I've also experimented by adding an audio track alone to the nest, but this creates a nest with audio alone. It seems that the caption tool is unusable for me which is a shame.

     

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    ah.photo
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    April 5, 2022

    Ah @20670798023906244ih4y 

     

    If you add a Transparent Video clip to the layer, it should work then. Or, just add your sequence and mute all of video tracks. Should work then. I tested it myself quickly in the beta version and got it working.

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