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Is CPU graphics used in render

Community Beginner ,
Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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I'm looking at upgrade options for my edit workstation. My question is with Premiere set to hardware encoding I know it uses my GPU card. But does Premiere also use the CPU on chip GPU if present as well as the GPU card.

 

The reason I ask is is there any advantage getting a CPU with on chip graphics or is it a waste of money when Premiere only uses the separate GPU card for encoding acceleration.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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It depends on which hardware acceleration you're referring to. There are two completely different forms.

 

The first, is GPU accelerated effects, like color corrections, Warp stabilizer, and some other effects. That one is (nearly) totally dependent on the discrete GPU card.

 

The other, completely different form, is for H.264/5 "long-GOP" decoding/encoding. Which is dependent mostly on the hardware associated with the CPU. Especially as some Intel CPUs have the needed hardware, some don't, and I don't think any AMD CPUs do.

 

This is affected also (apparently) with some by the accompanying on-board gpu chip.

 

So ... is it H.264/5 long-GOP you're concerned with, or ... color corrections/Warp and other GPU accelerated effects?

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Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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Thanks for the great reply. I'm more concerned with long GOP 264 export times. This seemed to improve a lot when I upgraded my video card to a GTX1650. Ok it's not top end gear but I am on a limited budget. So that seems to suggest the 264 export was being handled by the GTX1650 rather than the integrated graphics.

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 05, 2024 Jan 05, 2024

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You may have had GPU effects that were boosted by that card. I don't know of Nvidia cards having H.264 capabilities.

 

But @RjL190365 would.

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Your GTX 1650 has an NVENC encoder for both H.264 and HEVC encoding. And in your case, then only the GTX 1650 is used for that encoding job. Remember, on a system with both a discrete GPU installed and the integrated on-CPU graphics enabled, Adobe supports both decoders simultaneously but only the discrete GPU for encoding.

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Ah ok, thanks for clarifying. So it's still worth spending the extra on a quicksync vs of a CPU.

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LEGEND ,
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Especially if the footage that you're working with had been encoded with H.264 (8-bit 4:2:0) or HEVC (with newer Intel 11th-Gen or newer CPUs, 8-bit or 10-bit 4:2:0 or 4:2:2) to begin with.

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Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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Thanks RJL. Yes almost all my source material is H.264 (8-bit 4:2:0) so will let the iGPU CPU.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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Actually, Adobe by default uses both the integrated GPU and the discrete GPU simultaneously for decoding (or playback) of H.264/HEVC material. But when you encode to either H.264 or HEVC (which occurs during export), then only the discrete GPU is used. Adobe does not currently let you use the integrated GPU for encoding if a discrete GPU is present in your PC.

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Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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Any idea on thinking behind that? Seems logical to use all the hardware you can when rendering to minimise export time.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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I would imagine it has to do with the encoding process. You're suggesting it get divided up, a few bits done here, a few bits done there? I'm not sure that is workable.

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My thinking is that it seems to work dividing it up for decoding so why not encoding.

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