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Match Frame on subclip not matching to master clip

Community Beginner ,
Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

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I have reviewed a couple previous threads on this topic, which are a bit dated at this point, namely:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/subclip-sorrows-is-there-any-way-to-open-the...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/matchframe-on-a-subclip-in-source-monitor-wi...

 

In short, my issue is that I can't seem to match frame from a subclip to the master clip.  The discussions in the two-year-old threads above indicate that you CAN do this, but only if the "Restrict trims to subclip boundaries" box was checked when the subclip was created.  It is not working for me on any subclip, regardless of whether the "Restrict trims..." box has been checked.

 

I am currently using version 15.4.3 of Premiere.  I have been loathe to update to any newer versions, as I'm in the middle of a long-term project and worry about creating problems by doing so (though maybe there's nothing to worry about).  I wonder if there is something I'm doing wrong, and/or if this issue would be solved by upgrading Premiere, either to version 15.4.5 (long term supported), or the currently-latest version, 22.6.1.

 

Needless to say, not being able to match frame from a subclip to its master clip is a huge, time-wasting headache.

 

Please let me know if additional information from me would help sort this out.  Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Andrew

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Community Expert , Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

Ahhh... okay.

 

In the current version of Premiere Pro, it's just called "Source Clip" (Terminology changes in Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Audition).

 

Do the Match Frame (press f) to open the Subclip in the Source tab.  Then choose Clip > Edit Subclip... and Convert to Source to restore the original Media Start and Media End.  This should also allows using the Source without affecting the instance in the Timeline, but is still a seperate instance of the original Source.  That has to be loc

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Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

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If Match Frame does not work as expected, use the Playhead Position text field at the lower left of the Source panel with Overlays enabked in the Program panel.  

 

By default, Source Timecode should show at frame left, but this can be changd in the Overlay Settings.

 

Enter the Source Timecode value displayed in the Program panel in the Playhead Position text fieldof the Source panel after opening the source clip.

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Hi Warren,

 

Thanks for the quick reply.  I'm afraid I may not be fully understanding your answer.  I have the overlays set up as you describe.  I have a subclip, or a portion thereof, in the timeline.  I am trying to get the original master clip, from which the subclip was taken, to open in the Source panel, without having to navigate to it in the Project panel (which I thought match frame should do).  I have tried entering the timecode in the Playhead Position text field of the Source panel, as you describe, but this does not open the master clip.  When you say "...after opening the source clip", do you mean to navigate to the master clip and open it?  I have the feeling I'm missing something.

 

Thanks.

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Ahhh... okay.

 

In the current version of Premiere Pro, it's just called "Source Clip" (Terminology changes in Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Audition).

 

Do the Match Frame (press f) to open the Subclip in the Source tab.  Then choose Clip > Edit Subclip... and Convert to Source to restore the original Media Start and Media End.  This should also allows using the Source without affecting the instance in the Timeline, but is still a seperate instance of the original Source.  That has to be located manually.

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Got it, thanks.  I was able to duplicate what you explain.

 

I guess what I really want doesn't exist.  Time to make a request!

 

Thanks again.

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Sep 09, 2022 Sep 09, 2022

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Premiere Pro treats the subclip like an entirely separate source reference.  If I ever want to get back to the non-subclip instance of the source, I copy and paste the clip name to the search field of the Project tab (everything to the left of ".Subclip000").  Or I do a Reveal in Finder to import another source of the same clip.

When doing a Reveal in Project, it would be nice to have another pop-up menu extend out from that that allows us to choose from all instances of the source in the Project/Bin.

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This is very helpful, thanks.

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