P: Morph Cut causing Premiere Pro to crash every time. Help!

[Neco25032080tlzs]

I have been using the Morph Cut effect in my edits in Premiere Pro for years, with no real problems.

Since I installed Premiere Pro 2024 (24.1), every time I bring a morph cut to a sequence, the program crashes. I've tried multiple different ways, like creating a completely new sequence and pasting the shots there and then using morph cut, and nothing works.

I've decided to roll back to Premiere 2023 for now. I even tried using the latest Beta version, and it still crashes.

Does anyone have a solution?

[PawSydney]

well said Focus.

All I can say is that with CUDA on and max bit depth settings = Crash

without CUDA (software only) and sequence previews not in max render or max bit depth = render fine no errors

these errors never happened before recent update Dec / Jan

whatever the issue is CUDA,  ubiquitous or tyrannosaurus issue is a moot point;  it is an ADOBE issue as we are mere operators and CUSTOMERS using the said software at $50 a month.  I do like the morph cut but it's not loosing me sleep, we survived without it for a while! I would rather the time be spent fixing (or creating something new) speedgrade which is a 100% DOG

cool diodes

[jstrawn]

Strongly disagree that it is "not a ubiquitous problem." Morph Cut persistently crashes and the Interwebs are drenched with confirming reports.  The latest 2015.2 failed to address the problem.  It is simply not an available feature valid for advertisement until it is actually fixed.  Adobe has been aware of the bug for quite a while by now.

When I said "ubiquitous", I meant existing or being everywhere at the same time because I cannot reproduce it locally. How common it actually is is a separate discussion. What helps is if I can have: 1) specific steps that lead up to a reproducible test case, 2) valid media which facilitates those steps, and 3) System Specs (including GPU and processor memory info) for any systems where those steps + media consistently reproduce the problem.

If anyone would like to take time to provide those for me, then we might be able to isolate a problem. But discussing subscription prices and verbiage is not something I should be spending time on. Thanks in advance for any support and assistance.

[denniskeefer]

I have a MacBook Pro Late 2011, Version 10.11.2, 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5, Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB.

Using Adobe PremierePro CC v9.2. and AME same version

Today I exported 3 projects using AME, the two which had no morph-cut exported with no issue. The project with the morph-cut failed 3 times, each time at the point in the timeline that had the morph-cut.

Can someone please attend to this problem asap.

This is cut and pasted from the AME error logs:

- Encoding Time: 00:05:33

03/31/2016 02:43:12 PM : Encoding Failed

------------------------------------------------------------

A low-level exception occurred in: Morph Cut (AEVideoFilter)

A low-level exception occurred in: Morph Cut (AEVideoFilter)

A low-level exception occurred in: Morph Cut (AEVideoFilter)

Export Error

Error compiling movie.

Unknown error.

[Peter_Elements]

The...sigh.. workaround is to pre-render with Maximum Color depth but not maximum quality. Then select use previews when you export. Then you can have Max quality for most of your file, just not the morph cut itself.

[ralphd22751246]

I'm getting the same thing...it's getting a bit old! Any progress Adobe?

[jstrawn]

Ralph deGroot wrote:

Any progress Adobe?

Yes, please pick up the next public update (2015.3) when it becomes available and you should see notable improvements for Morph Cut in that version. I can't promise that each system-specific problem will necessarily be fixed, but the effect as a whole will be a lot more robust, especially in its ability to recognize and track faces. Also, I have found it to be useful with many other cuts that don't necessarily have faces. I'll be interested to know how it works for other users. I'm not sure exactly when 2015.3 will be publicly available, but the official word is "soon".

[fishercreative]

I am having the same issue as everyone mentioned above. I think this is a unique effect that I would like to use more but I get is crashing upon export. It renders fine in my project and looks awesome but then I cant export it.

I have a new high end mac pro. I can list everything but the bottom line is my computer usually has no problems. I feell premiere has been working really stable for me in the last year plus. Until this issue.

I sure would like to use Morph cut. Is there a current work around? I am updated to the latest 2015.3. I attached the error message.

Thanks

[jstrawn]

I see that you're exporting uncompressed, but you're scrolled down too far in the video tab for me to see what setting you used. Does it work for you with other settings? Alternatively, can you export from AME (press the Queue button) using the same or similar settings?

[D_Delaney]

I found out my problem with Morph Cut (at the time) was that I was trying to morph cut 2 clips at a different frame size than the sequence.  Once i corrected the sequence settings, the issue was resolved.

[jstrawn]

David Delaney wrote:

I found out my problem with Morph Cut (at the time) was that I was trying to morph cut 2 clips at a different frame size than the sequence. Once i corrected the sequence settings, the issue was resolved.

OK thanks, David, that's good to know. it still should not be throwing that error though so I will try to repro with those steps and report it as needed.

[JaysonM-Y]

Premiere remains the buggiest of the big 3 NLEs. It's a big bummer.

I'll have you know it's been pretty good till this latest update.
The last time I saw this much error and crash posts was about CS4 and I've been lurking since just before it's release.

[porubskeho7]

Same issue here - morph cut crashes out rendering.

Here is a complete report:

Process:               Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015 [8279]

Path:                  /Applications/Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015/Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015

Identifier:            com.adobe.dynamiclinkmanager.application

Version:               9.2.0.26 (9.2.0)

Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)

Parent Process:        dynamiclinkmanager [8248]

Responsible:           Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015 [8279]

User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2016-07-29 06:34:41.708 -0400

OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.11.5 (15F34)

Report Version:        11

Anonymous UUID:        95662183-9FC6-4C87-372B-AF6A901AA333

Time Awake Since Boot: 240000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        64  Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)

Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000175f0b000

Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

VM Regions Near 0x175f0b000:

    VM_ALLOCATE            0000000172323000-0000000175f0b000 [ 59.9M] rw-/rwx SM=PRV

-->

    VM_ALLOCATE            0000000176273000-000000017afe3000 [ 77.4M] rw-/rwx SM=PRV

Thread 64 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

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1   com.adobe.ImageRenderer.framework 0x0000000103afc139 IR::LineConverter::Convert(void const*, void*, int) const + 57

2   com.adobe.ImageRenderer.framework 0x0000000103b098bb IR::ConvertPackedLineByLine(void const*, int, IR_PixelFormat, void*, int, IR_PixelFormat, int, int, dvamediatypes::RenderQuality) + 187

3   com.adobe.ImageRenderer.framework 0x0000000103a79018 IR_Convert + 1256

4   com.adobe.ImageRenderer.framework 0x0000000103a796f9 IR_ScaleConvertOneField + 1609

5   com.adobe.ImageRenderer.framework 0x0000000103a790a9 IR_ScaleConvert + 81

6   com.adobe.VideoFrame.framework 0x0000000103cdeb94 VF::VideoFrameManipulators::CopyFrameWithFields(ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, dvamediatypes::RenderQuality, dvamediatypes::FieldType) + 1908

7   com.adobe.VideoFrame.framework 0x0000000103cdcd48 VF::VideoFrameManipulators::CopyFrame(ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, dvamediatypes::RenderQuality) + 72

8   com.adobe.VideoFilterHost.framework 0x00000001045b5820 ML::AEVideoFilter::Render(BE::TransitionParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>, int, int, dvamediatypes::TickTime const&, dvamediatypes::FrameRate const&, int) + 1024

9   com.adobe.VideoFilterHost.framework 0x00000001045b5a93 non-virtual thunk to ML::AEVideoFilter::Render(BE::TransitionParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>, int, int, dvamediatypes::TickTime const&, dvamediatypes::FrameRate const&, int) + 51

10  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f30a18 ML::TransitionNodeProducer::ProduceFrame(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) const + 3272

11  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f01925 ML::CompositorProducer::ProduceFrame(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) const + 597

12  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103eb5a6a ML::ProduceFrame(ASL::InterfaceRef<ML::IRenderableNodeProducer, ML::IRenderableNodeProducer> const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, MF::FrameTime const&, std::vector<dvamediatypes::PixelFormat, dvacore::utility::SmallBlockAllocator::STLAllocator<dvamediatypes::PixelFormat> > const&, bool) + 234

13  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103ee1846 ML::RenderableCutlistSource::GetFrameForSampleTimes(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) + 230

14  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f36bd4 ML::RenderableSourceScaler::GetFrameForSampleTimes(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) + 100

15  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f3f0e5 ML::RenderableSourceTimeMix::GetFrameForSampleTimes(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) + 245

16  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f1b630 ML::MediaNodeProducer::ProduceFrame(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) const + 1184

17  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103efc63e ML::ClipNodeProducer::ProduceFrame(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) const + 1870

18  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103f01925 ML::CompositorProducer::ProduceFrame(MF::FrameTime const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<MF::IVideoFrame, MF::IVideoFrame>&) const + 597

19  com.adobe.VideoRenderer.framework 0x0000000103eb5a6a ML::ProduceFrame(ASL::InterfaceRef<ML::IRenderableNodeProducer, ML::IRenderableNodeProducer> const&, ML::CutlistRenderParams const&, MF::FrameTime const&, std::vector<dvamediatypes::PixelFormat, dvacore::utility::SmallBlockAllocator::STLAllocator<dvamediatypes::PixelFormat> > const&, bool) + 234

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[Stephen Pickering122]

Same thing here I can't export this project.

[John Schmidt]

I hate morph cut. It usually equates to "Serious error" messages. I thought I learned my lesson, but was tempted to use it today with a few interview segments. Then it started a series of crashes. What I had to do: open a project and use the approximately 20 seconds I had prior to the next crash to REMOVE the 10 or so morph cuts I had placed into a sequence. Happy to report that the sequence is saved, and also to say I will never use morph cut again until this bug is fixed.

[Stu1974]

Hi Guys have no idea on how to put up a new topic.... Adobe forums are no very user friendly.....

My AME 2015.4 is crashing my entire machine when rendering the morph cut in my edits.... help! It crashes with or without GPU render...

[John Schmidt]

Sorry for your pain. I don't use morph cut any longer. It just creates problems.

[Dianadottir]

Same issue here, and the problem is that morph cut the only really interesting transition 😕

So when you spend hours creating a project which has morph cuts in it, you are really left

having to start all over again if you can't export it.

Adobe, if you can't make it work, why don't you just delete it, as people are really loosing a

lot of time with this very common bug.

[Thrill Media]

I have used it maybe twenty times without any problems until today. Now, under a ferocious deadline I can not get it to work with or without CUDA let alone rendering the final video out. Crash Crash Crash

I used it several times this week and have not made any changes to my machine.

Not that it matters:

WIn 10 Pro V 1607

i7-6900K

32 GB Ram

nVidia GTX 1070

[Thrill Media]

I found a temporary workaround... I rendered out each of my clips (with handles) to uncompressed avi and then used those to replace my clips in my sequence. Once I did that I was able to use morph cut without a crash. A PITA to be sure but it got me through the edit.

Makes me wonder if something in the codec that is causing PP to gag.

Cheers!
C

[Thrill Media]

Oddly (and I didn't realize this before), I had another morph cut further down in the sequence and it didn't cause any problems.

[elliemackayellipsis]

Has anyone been able to find a solution for this? I am having a nightmare with multiple versions of PP crashing every few minutes and not exporting, because of a few simple Morph Cuts. Adobe, why include this effect if it has so many bugs and causes such a headache?

If anyone knows a way to retain morph cuts whilst getting the software to work please let me know!

Otherwise I have to start all over again with these interviews... sigh...

[Thrill Media]

^^^ see workaround   It will get you through this edit.

[D_Delaney]

Elliem... Just double check that your clips you are adding morph cut to are the exact same frame size and frame rate.  Not sure is codec is an issue or not.  I was having problems with morph cut then realized that my 1080 footage was put onto a 720 timeline.  The workaround i used was nesting the two clips together and use morph cut, then that sequence goes into your main timeline. 

Hope that helps!

D

[elliemackayellipsis]

Hi,

Thanks, I'm about to give this a go.

What are the exact settings for exporting avi uncompressed? I'm not sure and I can't find it anywhere!

At the moment I can only export .mp4 if I remove all the morph cuts (although actually I've just noticed there were two still in the sequence which I missed, but it still exported - there must be a max limit above which it can't handle it)

I'd like to try your workaround before I start all over again with trying to cover the jump cuts with b roll.

Thanks

Ellie

[elliemackayellipsis]

Thanks! I've checked and all my clips and sequence settings are the same (1080p 25fps) so unfortunately I don't think that's the problem - but thank you anyway!