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Mouse roll jumps in program monitor

Participant ,
Jan 15, 2024 Jan 15, 2024

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I NEED to be able to scrub the program monitor with my mouse roller one frame at a time (like when it does in the grey area below the video) not do this insane, chaotic jumping I never asked for and can't even begin to understand or control and totally don't want to understand it. How switch it so I can set my mouse roller over the program moniter to one frame at a time? This way I can move the mask right away and not have to move the mouse down and back up again to move the mask, then back down again to scroll. This is hell. I keep accidently rolling over the video and jumping away and having to reorientate. Please tell me how to change it. I swear it didn't use to jump around like this. This is really disrupting my workflow. 

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 18, 2024 Jan 18, 2024

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Hi @JeffreyAdams,

I read your note. I am trying to understand what you are trying to do. It sounds like you can achieve what you want by advancing frames via a keyboard shortcut with the left hand while manipulating items in the Program Monitor with the right "mouse" hand. Would that work? Othewise, I think you'd need to file a feature request. I hope the advice helps.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

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Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

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I need the roller on my mouse to advance frame by frame and not jump more than ten frames a roll. I know how to advance frame by frame on the keyboard. I have been using premiere for over 20 years. I need to do this with my mouse. It works perfect when I'm hovering over the grey area under the program monitor but as soon as I am hovering over the video it's turns into trash. Clearly you don't understand because using the keyboard arrows moves the mask, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE MASK. 

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Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

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Here, if you can't understand this then please don't even respond: https://youtu.be/InX5Z3bczrk

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

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Hi @JeffreyAdams,

Thanks for the video. That really helps and also explains as to why I was confused until I saw it. I'm trying to replicate that issue now. I cannot reproduce it so far.

 

Observation: On my Mac and my PC, you can't scrub directly on the Source or Program Monitor as you were showing in the video. I am unaware of that hover scrubbing technique you are using. I would like to know if there's some setting or preference I have missed to allow such scrubbing directly on the Program Monitor UI. I'll ask the designers to get some clarity.

 

Typically, you do have to scrub in the Timeline ruler to do what you want, as you showed in your video. Sorry if that's too cumbersome. As I mentioned, using a keyboard shortcut to advance frames is the way I usually perform the task of moving frame by frame.

 

Advance frames using JKL: I should have said that I don't advance frames by using the arrow keys, I'm on JKL, so I use that to advance frame by frame - try it, JKL should work while fine-tuning your mask position.

 

To advance frame by frame using JKL, press the K key and tap either J or L. Press JK simultaneously to scrub slowly backwards and KL to scrub slowly forward.

 

With my editing workflow based around JKL, I never need to move my hand down to the arrow keys. You are correct, the arrow keys nudge the mask. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Hover Scrubbing, How? So, now we need to figure out how you got hover scrub working in the Program and Source Monitor. My builds of Premiere Pro simply do not do that. Did you enable something in Console? That's the only thing I can think of. If so, yeah, what you want to do is probably not officially supported and would be a feature request. Could that be the case? If so, let me know.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

 

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Jan 24, 2024 Jan 24, 2024

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When I can manage to scrub the video by hovering over the video using the roller it's PROFOUNDLY easier to move the mask as needed. If I use the keyboard as you keep mentioning it moves the mask which requires exponentially astronomically more steps in the form of moving the mouse clicking.

Essentially I want to "scroll scrub" directly over the mask in the video so I can occasionally move the mask. This would make keyframing at least 3 times easier which over the course of an hour long video could add up  quick to many hours saved. I want to scroll scrub adjust without having to move my mouse and reselect the mask over and over because something was laziley betatested and inadequately developed, unless I'm overlooking some sort of setting. Or, unless there's something else going on. I wonder if the same thing would happen on a different drive for example. i may test this and see if that's what's going on. Because I swear it use to act exactly like I want it to. I may even have an old video demonstrating this. 

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