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Multiple Lumetri Layers in Premiere

Community Beginner ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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I'm encountering an issue after upgrading to CC2018 in Premiere Pro. When color grading I often times do an overall lumetri layer with the overall look or grade, and then create a secondary lumetri layer or effect instance to use for masking certain parts of the image. I can get two instances to work on the same clip alright however the issue I'm running into is switching between instances. When I click on the other instance in the effect Control panel the values in the Lumetri panel do not update so I can't adjust anything other than the most recent instance of the effect applied. I used to do this all the time in 2017. I would love to get a fix for this. Currently I'm basically forced to outsource all my masking work to Resolve since the latest build of Premiere seems to be broken. Anyone have a work around?

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Adobe Community Professional , Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017
I'm trying to sort what you're saying ... I've rather some time with the Lumetri panel, and it has always been the case that adding a second Lumetri instance to a clip means the only way to control the first instance is in the ECP, and the second instance has the Lumetri panel controls. I've been rather vocal about disliking that arrangement, especially as it means my Tangent Elements panel is useless on a first instance of Lumetri in a multi-Lumetri arrangement on a clip.Which I do a lot as I t...

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I'm trying to sort what you're saying ... I've rather some time with the Lumetri panel, and it has always been the case that adding a second Lumetri instance to a clip means the only way to control the first instance is in the ECP, and the second instance has the Lumetri panel controls. I've been rather vocal about disliking that arrangement, especially as it means my Tangent Elements panel is useless on a first instance of Lumetri in a multi-Lumetri arrangement on a clip.

Which I do a lot as I tend to use secondaries quite a bit, sometimes wanting 2-4 HSL secondaries per clip. You can use adjustment layers over a clip, and put Lumetri on them ... for masking, that is typically what I do, put a mask on the adjustment layer and use a Lumetri on that to control things. This of course means the Elements and Ripple panels both work with both Lumetri instances.

Neil

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Hey Neil, Thanks for the reply. I could have sworn that you were able to switch between instances in the Lumetri panel in CC2017 but maybe I'm mistaken. If that is the case that seems a bit backwards since its not all that uncommon to need a secondary instance of lumetri.

I appreciate the work around. I will try making those secondary corrections using adjustment layers.

Thanks!

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It would certainly be helpful to stack AND keep the full control of the Lumetri panel. Sigh.

Back when the CC 2014 came out with a very slick "Direct Link" to SpeedGrade, I was thrilled. Was very easy to slip over, do some work, come back to PrPro, go do some more. Lumetri came out in PrPro, I thought ... well, it's ok for itty stuff ... then they removed the Direct Link to Sg ... and that was really a pisser.

Yea, I can stack Lumetri ... mask ... work the HSL's ... but there's no shotmatch, no 2/3 up ... and running only one secondary per instance is so lame.

But stack the 3-4 I'd like to (besides being a LOT slower to work than Sg) ... and PrPro starts  s   l  o  w  i  n  g    d    o     w      n.

Interesting, you can still manually hack the .prproj file in Mac or PC, or use the PrProBCC app of Patrick Zadrobilek's web site (about $10 in euros), work a 2018 project as if in Direct LInk mode in Sg, then mod the prproj file back to the right number for 2018, and ... all the Sg work is there, there's even a tab at the bottom of the Lumetri panel with the on-off toggle checkmark box ... and it doesn't slow PrPro down at all.

Hoping for a complete revamp of Lumetri now they've officially EOL'd Sg.

Neil

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Sep 18, 2019 Sep 18, 2019

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run into this problem today while trying to apply multiple secondary color adjustments in Lumetri... CC2018

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Sep 12, 2021 Sep 12, 2021

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This issue still exsists in CC2021. I wish they'd fix this so I can use my Tangent panels when doing more complex color correction. In the meantime, Resolve it is.

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Sep 12, 2021 Sep 12, 2021

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I hear you. And the engineers have heard from me ... every couple months at most.

 

I've talked with Francis Crossman and Patrick Palmer about it. They understand but ... it's not been fixed.

 

But Resolve is also problematic. They lock down my Elements panel both for how many buttons/knobs actually do anything and have a bizarre method of acessing the other tools that are not available at any moment. Plus I don't like the UI. Friends love it, great, but I like my customized workspaces.

 

Past that, the total tools in Resolve are pretty awesome.

 

And in Premiere, the Tangent people are getting their panels capable of doing audio mixing, size/rotation/placing of images or text, all sorts of jobs. So the Tangent gear is getting more usable in Premiere, while not so in Resolve.

 

Frustrated as I am by this, I've figured out how to do what I need. But everyone's mileage always varies. And it's time perhaps to jog a few more elbows ...

 

Neil

 

@Francis-Crossman 

@TrentHappel 

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