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Newest update of Premiere Pro - HORRIBLE - Where is RGB Curves and Three Way Color Corrector?

Explorer ,
Sep 11, 2024 Sep 11, 2024

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Newest update of Premiere (per usual) has made a bunch of unnecessary, terrible decisions in which they've made changes no one wanted or needed and then removed things that people have been using for YEARS AND YEARS. I no longer have TINT, RGB CURVES, or THREE WAY COLOR CORRECTOR (and others) and now Premiere wants me to only use LUMETRI which is one of THE WORST color correction tools in the universe. Can you guys please stop making terrible decisions and hamstringing the creators who use your software? Who are you listening to for making changes to the software? 7 year old boys who have a Youtube Vlog? Just fix the bugs and leave the other stuff alone. For example, why the hell can I no longer use my cursor and scroller to move frame by frame in the program monitor? And don't tell me I can only use it over the actual playhead area (because that's just dumb). Davinci Resolve editor sucks but at least the color tools work well. Maybe I'll move to Avid and start working with software that actual adults use. Start making fixes and stop making changes. 

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Sep 11, 2024 Sep 11, 2024

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1) The effects you mention have been in the Obsolete bin since at least 2018. They've been clear all along that those were never going to be udpated, and at some point, would go away. Personally I was suprised they kept them around as long as they did.

 

2) The reason for being in the obsolete bin was that a) the code was ancient and would need a complete re-creation, not just an update, and b) most of them were not used by anything more than a very small percentage of the user base. Simple priority decisions on where to put dev time: things used by very few, or things used by more users. Gee, that's kinda simple.

 

3) There were things in there I was unhappy about also, especially a couple of the noise/grain tools, which had options not available in the one they kept. But again, I was one of (relatively speaking) very few users that ever used those tools. Yea, I'm unhappy, but I also understand the reasoning.

 

4) Some of the effects had actually bad math involved. I work for/with/teach pro colorists, and while Lumetri was a very poor replacement for SpeedGrade, it was actually better in most cases, mathematically speaking, than the Fast color corrector and the other "old" color tools in Premiere. Most colorists found FCC to be mathematically quite poor, and said the only "reliable" thing about it, was it could and would mangle your pixels.

 

The RGB Curves tool was ok, for function and math, it was just the code was old. And after having curves in Lumetri, again, in relative terms, very few users ever used the RGB curves effect by itself.

 

5) TOTALLY agree with you on the Program monitor changes. I've been arguing for giving us the option to either zoom with the mouse (new behavior) OR work with scroll bars, like we used to be able to do.

 

I'd leave mine set to scroll bars all the time. But I do recognize that many other users, including many hugely "professional" editors, love the new mouse zooming thing. Fine for them, they should have the option.

 

But I'd prefer the previous method also be an option.

 

 

Last thing ... I started with SpeedGrade and Resolve, Lumetri came along, meh ... and I ticked staffers off by saying that dropping Sg was in the long run, a very unwise choice. Still think so. I work daily in both Premiere and Resolve.

 

I work with a full Tangent Elements panel, and realistically, after mapping that so that I can work with nearly all Lumetri's various controls available at the same moment via wheels, knobs, & buttons ... what do I think of Lumetri?

 

I'm actually faster in Lumetri than Resolve, for most "normal" color things. I've tested the tools to figure out what they actually do, not what people think they do, which is rarely the same thing. In either app.

 

That said, I would prefer they'd simply updated SpeedGrade rather than messing with even creating Lumetri.

 

And by the way ... the new 25.x series to be released with Adobe's MAX in October, is already out in the public beta.

 

There are massive changes to color coming ... including the need to separately set working color space as compared to display color space and delivery color space. There are options for wide-gamut working spaces, including ACEScct ... yea, truly massive changes coming.

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Sep 12, 2024 Sep 12, 2024

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The Tint effect is still available in Premiere Pro and has not been added to the list of obsolete effects. You can check the full list of removed effects here:

Obsolete Effects and Transitions in Premiere Pro

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