P: Filler Words not found

[Emeka250382451oke]

When I use transcription and then select filler words, it always says there are not filler words even when they are as clear as day in the audio. 

It seems lots of people are having this issue. 

I am using Version 25.1.0 (Build 73)

[Ann Bens]

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[Sumeet Kumar Choubey]

Hi Emeka250382451oke,

We're sorry about the poor experience. Let us know the version of Premiere Pro that you are using. For testing purposes, can you switch the Search filter to Pauses & let us know if it's detecting the filler words?

Thanks,

Sumeet

[Emeka250382451oke]

Yes when switched to pauses, it detected the pauses.

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[jamieclarke]

Hi @Emeka250382451oke - Please see the link that Ann has posted so that we can gather some more information to help you.  Thank you.

[Emeka250382451oke]

When I use transcription and then select filler words, it always says there are not filler words even when they are as clear as day in the audio. 

It seems lots of people are having this issue. 

I am using Version 25.1.0 (Build 73)

Mac OS - 15.2 (24C101)

Video was filimed with OBS and and an iPhone, 2 different audio tracks

When your support asked me to select "pauses" instead of "filler words" pauses did show up. 

Hope this helps

[Tommy34286751inqk]

For the last few months, my Premiere is not recognizing any 'filler words' in the text/transcript function. Anyone have a fix for this?

[Stan Jones]

@Tommy34286751inqk,

Others are reporting this. What version of PR are you using. I cannot replicate so far in 25.0 nor the Beta.

Stan

[jamieclarke]

Hi @Tommy34286751inqk - We can't reproduce this issue in 25.1 or the beta.  Would you be able to provide a sample clip?  Stan has a good question on what version of Premiere Pro are you working on and what os?

[Tommy34286751inqk]

Hey thanks all!

- I'm using 25.1.0

- OS is mac 15.1.1 (24B91)

- And sorry I'm no expert. What kind of clip are you looking for? Generally, no clip I try works with "filler words'

[Stan Jones]

@Tommy34286751inqk,

If none of them are working, I'd say any clip. The 2 main questions are a) whether you have a clip that has no filler words and b) whether what should be detected as filler words are showing as regular text in the transcript (as a filler word or as something else).

Stan

[Tommy34286751inqk]

Here's a sample clip. Usually the "Ummms" would be transcribed. But I just
tried transcribing it, and to your point, they were not recognized.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9ajmBi7gK4HwWnZnYc7ABiDgF8ljViV/view?usp=sharing

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[Stan Jones]

@Tommy34286751inqk,

Thanks; excellent! Very odd....

This is a stereo sample. Nothing special in PR or MediaInfo, except it being mp3. I tested it, and also tested reimport of it combined with video as mp4 and as a .wav file. I tested in 25.0.0, 24.6.1, and Beta 25.2.0.71.

This is an English speaker with good enunciation. There are 3 instances of very distinct "uhms" that are not transcribed as "uhm," filler word, or pause. They occur at the end of transcription sentence breaks. I think the transcription segments would be longer, except this single speaker is transcribed as speaker 1, then 2, then 1, 2, 1, and 2. I do not hear any difference in "who" is speaking.

@Kerstin Ebert @alexander-riss 

Stan

[Joshua30801942azs0]

I am having the same issue. I have downloaded mutliple older versions of Premiere Pro as well as the most recent. The filler words just don't show up at all, but everything else does. Since no filler words are detected, they therefore can't be deleted and remain in the video. Help! 

[Joshua30801942azs0]

UPDATE: The newest operating software on my iMac seems to have fixed the issue. Mac OS Sequoia 15.3.1

[Stan Jones]

@Joshua30801942azs0,

I know of no workarounds for this. Be sure to upvote this bug: the number at the top left of the original post.

Stan

[analoguejunkie]

I'm having the exact same issue. Ever since I updated to 25.1.0 I cannot get it to detect any filler words whatsoever. I've tried this on numerous client videos and it doesn't work on any. All are english speakers with very clean audio. Several videos I've counted (and removed manually) over 100 and it doesn't detect any. Causing me to have to do vastly more work than I should. 

Premiere Pro 25.1.0

Mac Studio M1 Ultra

Mac OS 15.2

[TheRealSnowride419]

I was able to get this working by followign the guidance in a similar thread:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/transcript-feature-not-allowing-me-to-select...

Essentially the fix for me was to trascribe as a dynamic transcript.  For some reason it automatically created  a static transcript and the static transcript doesn;t allow us to find the filler words.

[analoguejunkie]

Mine is a dynamic transcript, it is not a static transcript. Filler words is checked (not greyed out) in the transcript view options. 

[Tommy34286751inqk]

Same as above ^^. Still experiencing issues. 

[Imageflux Inc]

Yesterday a client hit me up with an issue: Premiere was not detecting filler words in an audio clip. Via screen sharing I walked them through the process and confirmed it was not working. On their system filler words are being detected as pauses. They sent me their footage, I followed the exact same steps on my system and it did detect filler words correctly.

We are both running Premiere 25.1.0. They are using a Mac (not sure which OS version), and I am using Windows 11 with an AMD processor and dual 4090 GPUs.

From my own software development experience, I have noticed that some speech to text libraries (and text to speech), behave differently depending on the OS. I suspect that's what's going on under the hood.

Thanks!

[mattchristensen]

Hi @Imageflux Inc I think what you're seeing could be an issue we are working on happening in macOS 15 where the filler detection model is not able to run. It's a separate model from the main transcription model, so you can transcribe even if maybe you can't detect fillers. To know for sure, could you have the Mac user try the Premiere Pro Beta version (downloaded separately in the Creative Cloud app)? It has a fix for this and should be able to create the fillers. Thanks.

[CGBESSELLIEU]

I've been using Premiere's transcription "filler word" removal for a while now, for uhm removal.

Recently, I've noticed that it's says "no results" despite showing the uhms as [...] visually. And they now seem to be detected under "pauses". Why would this be?

[Stan Jones]

@CGBESSELLIEU,

Your report will probably get moved to this other thread. See the staff report of one possible cause.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-filler-words-not-found/idc-p/15101572#M44273

But with a problem file from another user, I got the problem on windows 10. I have not gotten the problem on my older files that showed filler words in the past.

I suspect that your uhm also has a pause. I get no uhm in text or as a filler, and no pause.

Stan

[Stan Jones]

@mattchristensen,

Interesting. In another "missing filler words" thread, the user provided a file.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-filler-words-not-found/idc-p/15085191#M43864

What version of the Beta should have the fix?

He was using 25.1.0 on mac 15.1.1 (24B91).

As I note there, I am still Windows 10 and ran his simple mp3 file on 25.0.0, 24.6.1, and Beta 25.2.0.71. Transcription runs, and distinct "uhms" are not transcribed as "uhm," filler word, or pause. They occur at the end of transcription sentence breaks. There were also issues with speaker identification. The transcription segments were short, only because this single speaker is transcribed as speaker 1, then 2, then 1, 2, 1, and 2. I did not hear any difference in "who" is speaking.

This is true even though my new files find filler words and old files that found filler words in the past still find them.

I flagged @Kerstin Ebert and @alexander-riss, but I don't think we've heard anything official on why several users are reporting missing filler words. It is helpful to know this is a separate model running.

Stan