Problem with colors on exported vid

[Lucas_Claramunt5250]

Hello,

I have a problem on some of my exports, they look over-saturated when i exported them but they dont look like this in the preview.

Footage has been shot with a sony ZV-E1 in mp4 (it seems)

Below I drop you some files that are illustrating my problem.

Thank you for any help, have a great day.

[SimplySurya]

In the Export settings , go to Video tab below and un check the main and put it to High10 , Next change the Rec 709 to Rec 2020 or HLG in the options . Try this step and let me know it worked or not 

[R Neil Haugen]

What do you want to end up with ... HDR, in the HLG format, or standard, Rec.709 media?

You set your Premiere color management according to what you want to end up with. And there are A TON of options. So it's not a question of simply do X ... as depending on what you start with, and where you want to end up, there's a lot of possible options.

HDR is fun, granted, but it is still SO much the Wild Wild West of video. Most screens don't actually do it, yet, and of those that do, most only do one or two of the several different HDR formats, and that ... not accurately. So even with the problem of Apple setting a wrong display transform for Rec.709 on Macs without reference modes, Rec.709 is more predictable.

But it's your choice, though I would not recommend the first reply suggestion. Do not modify a preset to a different color space than it was created for.

Only use presets with HLG in the name for HLG exports. Use PQ named presets for PQ color space exports.

And for Rec.709, only use presets without either HLG or PQ in the preset name.

[Lucas_Claramunt5250]

Hello,

First of all, thank you for your responses and help!

My goal is not to work with HDR or Rec.709, as I don’t have the necessary knowledge to manage these formats. What I’m primarily looking for is consistent color rendering between what I see in Premiere Pro and the final exported result.

I’m using the same camera as always, and I’ve never had this issue before. I’d like to understand why the colors no longer match and how to fix it to ensure a faithful display between my edit and the export.

Thanks again for your time!

[R Neil Haugen · Accepted solution]

You didn't have options for color space for video before. There used to be only Rec.709 for a working color space, and all video was Rec.709. That time is long gone.

Now there's Rec.709, and several flavors of HDR ... HLG, HDR10, HDR10+, PQ,  and DV ... DolbyVision.

Premiere can work either set to Rec.709, HLG, PQ, and if you know how, HDR10, or to pass through without any CM operations for high-end work like vfx plates and such. And you have to choose, as Premiere can't "know" what you want to do.

So you probably would be better suited to a Rec.709, and pretty automated color managed workflow. Easy peasy.

Lumetri panel Settings tab ... the tab NAMED Settings.

- Set Display color management on, and if on a Mac, probably Extended Dynamic range also.

- Set Auto Detect Log and Auto Tonemapping both on.

- Set the Sequence working space to Rec.709.

That will probably handle most things for you. With one ... other  ... issue. Viewer gamma setting. 
So first, we have a question ....

Are you on a Mac, without Reference modes for the monitor?

If yes, read the next few paragraphs. If no, skip to Viewing Gamma Settings below.

Here's a choice that's a total pick your poison. Why?

Apple uses a wrong display transform for Rec.709 media but only on Macs without Reference modes. So if you are on one of those, then outside of Premiere, but only in QuickTime Player, Chrome, and Safari ... you will see a lighter image in the shadows, with less visual saturation and slightly shifted hues.

All other screens see the more normal representation of Rec.709.

If on a Mac without Reference modes, check your video in both Qt Player and VLC or Potplayer. Everyone not on a Mac like yours will see the VLC/Potplayer image. Those on Macs without Reference modes will see the lighter one.

There isn't a fix, as you can't show the same image file with two different display transforms and see the same image. Thank you Apple for messing things up so bad. Ah well.

So do you only care about what it looks like on Macs like yours without Reference modes?

Then set Premiere's Viewing gamma to 1.96/QuickTime, and correct your video. Outside Premiere it will look similar but only on Macs without Reference modes, while viewing in Qt Player, Chrome, and Safari.

ALL other screens will show a darker, more saturated image. And one other comment ... 

No professeional distribution media is ever graded for display transform of gamma 1.96

Viewing Gamma Settings Explained

- Gamma 1.96/Qt Player sets the Program monitor in Premiere to use a similar display transform for Rec.709 as to what Apple's ColorSync CM utility does. As stated above, the image will appear similar within and without Premiere, but only on Macs without Reference modes. And even then, only in Qt Player, Chrome, and Safari.

- Gamma 2.2/Web ... This should be the standard setting for most users!!!!!

NOT because you are grading "for the web" ... but because, by the professionally set and followed standards for pro video color correction ... IF you are working in a normally lit room, the display transform should be gamma 2.2. 

- Gamma 2.4/Broadcast Should only be used when grading in a very dark, not quite blackened, room, with a proper bias light on a gray surface behind the monitor.

If you're not working in a pretty darn dark, gray room, do not use gamma 2.4.

[Lucas_Claramunt5250]

Wow, a huge THANK YOU for your time and for sharing such an incredibly detailed and well-explained breakdown! 🙌:fire:

I’m on Windows, and after diving into my settings with your insights in mind, I realized that only one of my sequences was correctly set to Rec.709 as the working space. And surprise, surprise—after export, it’s the only one that looks exactly the same before and after!

This was a total eye-opener! Clearly, the issue was my incorrect color space settings in the other sequences. Now, thanks to your wisdom, I’ll make sure every sequence is properly configured so I don’t run into this inconsistency again.

Seriously, I can't thank you enough for taking the time to explain all of this in such depth. Your knowledge and clarity are truly next level!

Before !

AFTER !!!

[R Neil Haugen]

I am happy to have helped you get this figured out. I do love to help.