Sluggish performance still a problem in 23.6

Report · Aug 21, 2023

I am still using Premiere Pro 22.6 due to sluggish performance in higher versions. Multicam editing was a nightmare. I decided to check out version 23.6. The performance was even worse then before. Is anyone successfully multicam editing in 23.6?

I actually started a multicam editing session today in 23.6 with high expectations. Had to revert back to 22.6.

Report · Aug 21, 2023

Hey @lockhartgary,

I read your note. You say you're having poor performance in multicam editing sessions in current versions. What kind of footage is this? Is it 4K? 4:22? 10-bit? H.264/HEVC? How many angles? Give us full specs of the media and your computer to help us understand what issues you are facing.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

Report · Aug 23, 2023

INTEL i7-9700K

WINDOWS 10 VERSION 10.0.19044 BUILD 19044

32 Gb RAM

I AM IMPORTING FOOTAGE FROM 3 CAMERAS – 2 SONY AND 1 CANON

CANON INFO:

General

ID : 1 (0x1)

Complete name : Q:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS

Format : BDAV

Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

File size : 3.99 GiB

Duration : 27 min 0 s

Overall bit rate mode : Variable

Overall bit rate : 21.2 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate : 24.0 Mb/s

Frame rate : 29.970 FPS

Recorded date : 2023-08-19 22:56:17-06:00

Writing application : Panasonic

Video

ID : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L4

Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15

Format settings, picture structure : Frame

Codec ID : 27

Duration : 27 min 0 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Bit rate : 19.9 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate : 21.6 Mb/s

Width : 1 920 pixels

Height : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Interlaced

Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields

Scan order : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.321

Stream size : 3.76 GiB (94%)

Audio

ID : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : AC-3

Format/Info : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name : Dolby Digital

Codec ID : 129

Duration : 27 min 0 s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 384 kb/s

Channel(s) : 2 channels

Channel layout : L R

Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Compression mode : Lossy

Delay relative to video : -67 ms

Stream size : 74.2 MiB (2%)

Service kind : Complete Main

Text

ID : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : PGS

Codec ID : 144

Duration : 27 min 0 s

Delay relative to video : -67 ms

SONY INFO:

General

ID : 0 (0x0)

Complete name : M:\All Nations Church of God Video\Camera Footage\20230820 - Pastor Emmanuel Simmons - Warning Concerning the Enemy of the Church\Crowd\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS

Format : BDAV

Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

File size : 1.98 GiB

Duration : 11 min 53 s

Overall bit rate mode : Variable

Overall bit rate : 23.8 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate : 24.0 Mb/s

Frame rate : 29.970 FPS

Recorded date : 2009-01-01 01:28:00-05:00

Writing application : Sony HXR-NX5U

Video

ID : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L4

Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=15

Codec ID : 27

Duration : 11 min 53 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Bit rate : 21.3 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate : 22.0 Mb/s

Width : 1 920 pixels

Height : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Interlaced

Scan type, store method : Separated fields

Scan order : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.343

Stream size : 1.77 GiB (90%)

IrisFNumber : 1.600000

Audio

ID : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : PCM

Format settings : Big / Signed

Muxing mode : Blu-ray

Codec ID : 128

Duration : 11 min 53 s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s

Channel(s) : 2 channels

Channel layout : L R

Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz

Bit depth : 16 bits

Delay relative to video : -67 ms

Stream size : 131 MiB (6%)

Report · Aug 22, 2023

Version 23.6 mulicam works, but I wait 3-5 seconds for the source monitor with cameras to open (that's when I open new projects, when I open the old project from 2014, mulicam pops up immediately)....so far the best version is 22.6.4, the best rendering, the best multicameras... I also wrote to Adobe about the timeline and they made it in version 23.5, works flawlessly, but the multicamera is still bad in 23.5 and 23.6, here is an example of how I solved it in version 23.5, there is also a video. ...

Problem solved pp 23.5 (multicam and audio track mixer) VIDEO

and there is problem with rendering ...
Pp 23.5 rendering is not as good as 22.6.4

all the best....

Report · Aug 24, 2023

Moving to the bugs forum.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

Report · Oct 02, 2023

Yes i stacked on version 23.2 because all versions up is completely nightmare when it comes with big projects on multicam.

All files i use is H264 1080p 50fps 50mbps HLG3 from sony a7iv

GPU RTX4070TI

CPU I9 13900K

RAM 64GB DDR5 6000Mhz

All drives are SSD

Yes there is new features in newer versions, but i need to work and provide to my clients edited materials on time.

I can't understand why... why Adobe can't provide stable versions of premiere pro.... why till now they even don't implement video denoiser)))

We pay so much money for creative cloud every month and Davince Resolve with it's free version works so smooth and stable, at least in multcam editing and on much less powerful PCs

Report · Oct 07, 2023

I agree...

Report · Oct 09, 2023

yes... video denoiser and audio volume....that we don't have to go to windows sound settings....