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Update 2023 came with lots of little annoying/unnecessary changes

Participant ,
Aug 17, 2023 Aug 17, 2023

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Hey Adobe,

I'm (still) discovering annoying and niggling changes that have been applied to my settings with the update of Premiere 2023. Why ya gotta changing all my defaults?

Examples include:

- "Selection Follows Playhead" was enabled with update

- "Linked Selection" was disabled with update

- Ctrl+V shortcut was changed from "paste to target track" to "paste to same track"

 

Not knowing that these setting changes have been appled has really slowed down my editing, and takes me a long time to identify exactly what the behaviour change is (not to mention working out what terminology to use to find the answers here in the Support Community). There are still niggling issues with Premiere's behaviour since the last update that I still can't pin down, and thus resolve.

 

Basically, did you really need to change the default function of keyboard shortcuts, and the defult status of settings, when you rolled out the last update? PLEASE don't do it again for 2024.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 18, 2023 Aug 18, 2023

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@braydon,

 

I hear you. Such changes can be confusing. But it is true that they are usually done for what are believed to be good reasons. And it is true that many users often disagree. And either way, there is an adjustment period that can be frustrating. I don't conclude that Adobe can avoid this, but it emphasizes that a) any changes should be warranted and b) the heads-up needs improvement.

 

The change in default paste behavior is one of my favorite examples of confusion. Here's the post where I discovered the change:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/track-targeting-broken/m-p/13027276#M418096

 

I knew the change was coming from seeing it in the Beta version, and I thought I was going to like it. And I actually do like having the additional paste options, but I prefer the old default. But when I encountered questions and confusion about the change in the Release version, it was nowhere in my mind.

 

This was actually changed in PR 22.5:

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new/2022-5.html#paste-same-track

 

So there was a clear explanation about the change. But in today's world, I admit that I do not read the documentation ahead to see if an old, familiar behavior has changed.

 

This was my detailed description of the change:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/track-targeting-broken/m-p/13034226#M418688

 

While many users prefer the old behavior, this was done because it was believed that this was the better behavior going forward. (Is this default paste the Avid method?)

 

In any event, and you probably know this now, you can modify shortcuts to 1) only use the old method or 2) modify the new method so you keep the old shortcuts but have the new ones.

1) Delete the shortcuts in the Panel -> Timeline section of the Keyboard customization: "Paste Insert To Same Track" -> Ctrl+Shift+V and Paste [Overwrite] To Same Track -> Ctrl+V.

2) Delete as in #1, so the application-wide shortcuts are used for targeted tracks, and then assign your own to take advantage of the paste insert/overwrite to same track.

 

A big change in 23.4 is the new Text-based editing/Source media transcription. It is a fantastic feature, but it has a learning curve, and it changes some basic functions (how to transcribe a sequence).

 

Stan

 

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LEGEND ,
Aug 18, 2023 Aug 18, 2023

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Stan's right on this. And they do have to update the processes, both internally and 'visible' at times. Or ... become an quaint old antique.

 

On another forum I'm on, there's been a ton of discussions of the Avid potential/now-announced sale. And one thing that came up there, was how many editors used to work in Avid, but though it's still pretty rock-solid, well ... keeping complete backwards capability has greatly limited updating of so many things, that they'd left Avid. Even though neither Premiere nor Resolve totally floated their boats. But at least, they did enough things better than Avid at this time.

 

But it's darn annoying when the defaults are changed and you don't know they are!

 

And like you, Stan, and others, that whole track pasting thing still bumps me at times, as I've got to get enough times doing it to forget about the old method in the fingers. It will happen, but ... it ain't fun along the way.

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 18, 2023 Aug 18, 2023

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@braydon We hear you. We've recently improved how we document and publish bugs that we've fixed in each new version. For the next major release, we're going to improve how we document what we've changed. Today, we've got fixed issues, known issues, and major new feature documentation. We're going to add another page that will list everyting that has changed in each release, regardless of how major or minor it might seem. 

 

Regards,

Fergus

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LEGEND ,
Aug 18, 2023 Aug 18, 2023

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Fergus,

 

That would all be so useful! Thanks ...

 

Neil

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Community Expert ,
Aug 18, 2023 Aug 18, 2023

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@Fergus H,

 

That is great news!

 

Stan

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Participant ,
Aug 19, 2023 Aug 19, 2023

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@Fergus H Fergus, that's great news. 

 

I'm not against changes, and I love seeing the way Premiere evolves with every update. Heck, in my quest to get the settings back to what they were, I've really learned just how flexible the program is. Although I dunno who would possibly edit in the way the settings were reconfigured to, coz it sure as heck isn't efficient.

 

But yeah, when default settings are going to be changed with version updates, it's essential Adobe provides list of those changes, so your customers aren't left floundering when functions don't behave the way they expect!!! I'm really glad to hear this will be happening going forward.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 19, 2023 Aug 19, 2023

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We've recently improved how we document and publish bugs that we've fixed in each new version.

 

Fergus H,

 

Great news, thanks.

 

I hope you also consider improving how you document and publish bugs as they are discovered.

 

R.

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Participant ,
Jun 07, 2024 Jun 07, 2024

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Hey @Fergus H 

 

Just checking in again follow the 2024 update. Where do I find the page you mention that lists all the changes, no matter how minor they may seem?

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We're going to add another page that will list everyting that has changed in each release, regardless of how major or minor it might seem. 


By @Fergus H

 

I'm still being flumoxed by all these small UI and functionality changes, and would just LOVE if there was a single, easy-to-find refernce for these changes.

For example, the FX badges on video clips are now almost transparent, lack hard borders and have moved from the left side to the clip to the far right corner. I don't disagree with this change, they drove me nuts in their old form, but it took me forever to find them in their new form. I thought I was going crazy!

 

Please, please, please inform us when you make these changes, and inform us in a way the average, non-beta user can find easily.

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Participant ,
Jul 11, 2024 Jul 11, 2024

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Hey @braydon - here is the page you are looking for,  that promised page which details the updates for each version. Super easy to find and not burried at all, it didn't even take a full hour of trawling to unearth!

https://helpx.adobe.com/au/premiere-pro/using/whats-new.html

You're welcome!

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