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2nd System Audio and Text Based Editing - A Key Element Overlooked

Community Beginner ,
Aug 07, 2023 Aug 07, 2023

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I was extremely excited about the new TBE feature in Premiere but have now seen it's shortcomings for higher end, pro-level productions. TBE is great for videos with 2-4 audio channels attached but when you work with 4 plus seperate audio tracks(aka 2nd system audio) there's a few more steps invloved to build out a radio edit. 

 

If working with an interview that has 2 cameras with audio AND  4, 5 or 6 + 2nd system audio tracks you have to work like this:

1. pancake timeline , transcribed INTV sequence on top, mouse click to top sequence, make selection/In and Out, mouse click to bottom blank sequence(radio), and NOW you can paste your selection. (Is there a keystorke that will highlight the bottom sequence window and then back up? If so, that would help but I'm not even sure what to search for to get that answer)

Screenshot 2023-08-07 at 1.49.39 PM.png

IMO, while better than before TBE, that is just way too many clicks so the alternative's are to ...

 

2: Duplicate the transcribed sequence and then destructively/subtract what you don't want instead of selecting what you do or....

 

3: use a 3 point system where you paste from the source monitor BUT it pastes a NESTED CLIP and nested clips are literally the worst thing ever and should never be used when doing higher end work because they're so proned to issues. You can't send for color grading or mix with nested clips in a sequence. We have specifically banned nests for the last several years because they caused so many issues. (no pics cause you get this system)

 

In summary, if you could make it easier to work with several 2nd system audio clips that would be awesome. Specifically, if we could use the 3 point editing where it pastes selects NOT NESTED but as they are in the original transcribed sequence, that would be a great improvement.

Thank you for your time

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Community Expert ,
Aug 07, 2023 Aug 07, 2023

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@Pursuit Films Post,

 

Thanks for posting this suggestion with a detailed real-world workflow. And for your thoughts about workarounds.

 

@TeresaDemel @Kevin-Monahan 

 

There are a number of issues raised by the new methods. Much of the discussion and work occurs in the Beta forums.

 

The Beta can be installed independently from your production version(s) from the cloud desktop. See the Beta FAQs:
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-beta.html


Note that the newest Beta (24.0.0) is at PR project file version 42, while the release PR 2023 is project file version 41. This means that you cannot open a Beta version file in the release version.

 

Note the Timeline header button "Insert and overwrite sequences as nests or individual clips" might fix you problem with nest vs clips. Yours is currently set to nest (blue; clips is white):

 

PR Timeline Nesting Nest Button 22_6_2.png

Stan

 

 

 

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Aug 07, 2023 Aug 07, 2023

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Hi @Stan Jones - I notified the team about this discussion. Thanks!

 

Kevin

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