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Alpha Channel Videos Glitch

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Aug 29, 2020

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I'm encountering a very strange issue with my alpha channel videos that is costing me time and drive space. I import these Alpha Channel text graphic MOVs into Premiere, and at first they look flawless (see below). Crisp edges, clean alpha and motion blur. Exactly as they were in After Effects.

 

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But then, after a short period of time, the videos suddenly look like crap. Semi-transparent blue background replaces the alpha, the edges become jagged, the motion blur becomes a pixely mess (see below)

GFX After GlitchGFX After GlitchGFX After GlitchGFX After Glitch

The source file never changed, the graphics just degrade immensely within the program. At first I thought it was just the playback or something related to sequence settings, but this visual degradation is present in the source window and remains in the final export. Making the file offline and relinking doesn't work. The only workaround I've found is making a duplicate of the source file in Finder, Importing that, and doing the Alt-Drag-Replace trick. But this is a ridiculous, time consuming extra step I should not have to do, and eventually the duplicate file undergoes the same degradation.

 

No matter what, I get this brief window where the alpha video files look pristine and accurate, then they become these ugly bastardizations, and once this transformation happens, it can't be undone. Even if I import the same file into Premiere, it has the fuzzy blue look. The only way to "remind" Premiere what these files are supposed to look like is bringing in a new copy, and even then, Premiere eventually "forgets" again. I can't make duplicates within Finder and manually realign them with the graphics every time I want to get an export out to the client where the text graphics aren't an ugly fuzzy mess.

 

This glitch happens regardless of whether the Alpha MOVs were exported from After Effects as Lossless with Alpha or Prores 4444 with Alpha.

 

Program is Premiere Pro CC 2020 V13.1.5 (up to date at time of posting)

 

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Alpha Channel Videos Glitch

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I'm encountering a very strange issue with my alpha channel videos that is costing me time and drive space. I import these Alpha Channel text graphic MOVs into Premiere, and at first they look flawless (see below). Crisp edges, clean alpha and motion blur. Exactly as they were in After Effects.

 

GFX Upon ImportGFX Upon ImportGFX Upon ImportGFX Upon Import

 

But then, after a short period of time, the videos suddenly look like crap. Semi-transparent blue background replaces the alpha, the edges become jagged, the motion blur becomes a pixely mess (see below)

GFX After GlitchGFX After GlitchGFX After GlitchGFX After Glitch

The source file never changed, the graphics just degrade immensely within the program. At first I thought it was just the playback or something related to sequence settings, but this visual degradation is present in the source window and remains in the final export. Making the file offline and relinking doesn't work. The only workaround I've found is making a duplicate of the source file in Finder, Importing that, and doing the Alt-Drag-Replace trick. But this is a ridiculous, time consuming extra step I should not have to do, and eventually the duplicate file undergoes the same degradation.

 

No matter what, I get this brief window where the alpha video files look pristine and accurate, then they become these ugly bastardizations, and once this transformation happens, it can't be undone. Even if I import the same file into Premiere, it has the fuzzy blue look. The only way to "remind" Premiere what these files are supposed to look like is bringing in a new copy, and even then, Premiere eventually "forgets" again. I can't make duplicates within Finder and manually realign them with the graphics every time I want to get an export out to the client where the text graphics aren't an ugly fuzzy mess.

 

This glitch happens regardless of whether the Alpha MOVs were exported from After Effects as Lossless with Alpha or Prores 4444 with Alpha.

 

Program is Premiere Pro CC 2020 V13.1.5 (up to date at time of posting)

 

Below are my Computer Specs

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Aug 30, 2020

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May need to interprete the alpha channel in the Project window.

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I did a test render out of AE and put into Premiere Pro. I have very similar specs to you (MBP2020, same OS, latest Adobe CC etc.) but could not replicate your issue yesterday.

Though I think Ann Bens may be on the right track. If the alpha interpretation of a clip is wrong in Premiere Pro I get 'scrunchy' edges on the alpha channel. But the only way I could get this to happen was change the interpret alpha settings for the clip in Premiere Pro to 'Conform Alpha Premultiplication to: Premultiplied Alpha'. Then my clip - with a straight alpha - looks pretty bad. This *might* be what is happening to you.

Perhaps Premiere Pro misinterpreting your alpha clips over time? ... the over time bit is a big problem - if true it might indicate a bug?,  don't know.

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Aug 31, 2020

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This happened to me with previous versions too.

Clip exported from Ae with straight alpha. Gives me blue edges. After interpreting it to Premultiplied issue is gone.

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Aug 31, 2020

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Hello, RoscoeSas

 

It's pretty awkward what's happening with you Adobe Premiere. For some reason, it's getting confused with your alpha channels after a short while. It might be a premultiplied vs. straight alpha issue.

I suggest you trying to modify the video clip. Right click on the file and go to "Modify > Interpret Footage  > Interpret Footage" - There, you'll be able to see your Alpha Channel settings. Try turning on the "Conform Alpha Channel Premultiplication to: Premultiplied Alpha". If it's already on, try turning it off and turn the other option on. Take a look at this article: https://www.provideocoalition.com/alpha-channels-premultiplied-vs-straight/

 

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If you are the creator of those files with alpha channels, I suggest that you try exporting it again in a different format (MP4) and codec. See if that works out for. If you still get the same issues after that, I suggest that you try exporting it through AfterCodecs. It's a plugin from Autokroma. It may be helpful for you.

 

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