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Oct 01, 2018

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I am importing an mxf file that has closed captioning but the caption stream is not showing up in premiere pro. I can see it in VLC. The stream info says "Codec: EIA-608 subtitles (c608), Description:  Closed captions 1, Type: subtitle". The subtitle track can then be turned on in VLC. In Switch under the inspector it shows "Format: CEA-608/708 Closed Captions" so i know the caption streams are in the file but premiere doesn't seem to be decoding them. When I right click on file in the project window and go to modify, captions is grey out. I did turn on "Include captions on import" in the preferences. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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A 2 stream mxf similar to yours (1 608; 1 708) exported from PR imported with both streams to PR. Oddly, that file in Media Info shows only the 708 stream.

I'd log this as a bug; something is not working as it should for mxf embedded caption import.

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Closed captioning in file not showing up on import

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I am importing an mxf file that has closed captioning but the caption stream is not showing up in premiere pro. I can see it in VLC. The stream info says "Codec: EIA-608 subtitles (c608), Description:  Closed captions 1, Type: subtitle". The subtitle track can then be turned on in VLC. In Switch under the inspector it shows "Format: CEA-608/708 Closed Captions" so i know the caption streams are in the file but premiere doesn't seem to be decoding them. When I right click on file in the project window and go to modify, captions is grey out. I did turn on "Include captions on import" in the preferences. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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A 2 stream mxf similar to yours (1 608; 1 708) exported from PR imported with both streams to PR. Oddly, that file in Media Info shows only the 708 stream.

I'd log this as a bug; something is not working as it should for mxf embedded caption import.

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What specific dot version of PR?

Please post a screenshot of the file using Media Info in tree view.

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Version 12.1.2 (build 69)

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I've successfully imported an mxf file with an embed using that version.

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I have not been successful viewing an mxf embed in VLC, so wondering how you did that. I can only get it using a sidecar file. So mediainfo is a way to confirm the embed.

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screenshot showing no caption streams in premiere

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info and captioning from vlc

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In regards to the comment "I have not been successful viewing an mxf embed in VLC, so wondering how you did that". I just go to Subtitles/Subtitle Track and enable closed captions from there. The mxf file with captioning is coming from Grass Valley iTX.

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here is video info from a different mxf file with both 608 and 708 captions created in premiere for a comparison.

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Here is dropbox link to download. 1 mxf file and 2 png with media info.

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Shared a file with one 708 and 608 streams. Caption does not import with 2018.1.2.

No clue. Doing some additional tests.

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A 2 stream mxf similar to yours (1 608; 1 708) exported from PR imported with both streams to PR. Oddly, that file in Media Info shows only the 708 stream.

I'd log this as a bug; something is not working as it should for mxf embedded caption import.

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The only difference I can see as far as captioning in the file from Grass Valley and the file made in Premiere is the muxing mode. The Grass Valley files has muxing mode of A/53 / DTVCC Transport whereas the Premiere files has Ancillary data/CDP. Dont know if this could be a problem or something about the way Grass valley writes cc to the file that Premiere cant read properly. Anyway hopefully they can come up with a fix on upcoming versions. Thanks for looking into this for me. Much appreciated.

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You're welcome. Thanks for being so responsive!

I have not had a chance to log this as a bug. I took a look, and I do not see any regarding import of files with embedded captions.

File bugs (and feature requests) here:

Premiere Pro: Hot (2586 ideas) – Adobe video & audio apps

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This is still an On-Going Issue..... I am using the latest Premiere Pro version 13.1.5 and it still does not decode 

EIA-608/708 A/53 / DTVCC Transport

I use  Professional Broadcast Playout software and the CC is present there as well as VLC and MediaInfo.

Only the Software that does not recognize the CC is Premiere.

Media Info - Comparison MXF with DTVCC & ANC (created by Premiere)Media Info - Comparison MXF with DTVCC & ANC (created by Premiere)MXF Export from PremiereMXF Export from PremiereMXF created with DALET - DTVCC -- NO CC in PremiereMXF created with DALET - DTVCC -- NO CC in PremiereMXF Export from Premiere - CC presentMXF Export from Premiere - CC present

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