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Easily swap the track arrangement (shifting tracks up or down)

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Hey all,

Is there a way to shift an entire track up or down placing them in the order or arrangement you want?

 

I want to be able to grab V1 and move it to where V3 is, so that it's above the other footage on V2.

Or grab A6 and pull it up to A2, Making old A6 now A2, and previous A2 is now A3.

 

Curently (as far as I know) you have to highlight all the clips on the track and bump them up when highlighted.

2 problems accure, if you bump up and land on the track above it will overwrite the clips above, or if you unlink the audio video you may misalign sound from video.

 

How is this not a feature? When I started out 15 years ago with Sony Vegas, it was available. 15 years later I still can't do that in Premiere, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

 

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Select Track Selection Forward Tool (A).

Hold down Ctrl and click on first clip

Drag everthing up or down (dont let go of the ctrl) to new empty track.

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Easily swap the track arrangement (shifting tracks up or down)

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Hey all,

Is there a way to shift an entire track up or down placing them in the order or arrangement you want?

 

I want to be able to grab V1 and move it to where V3 is, so that it's above the other footage on V2.

Or grab A6 and pull it up to A2, Making old A6 now A2, and previous A2 is now A3.

 

Curently (as far as I know) you have to highlight all the clips on the track and bump them up when highlighted.

2 problems accure, if you bump up and land on the track above it will overwrite the clips above, or if you unlink the audio video you may misalign sound from video.

 

How is this not a feature? When I started out 15 years ago with Sony Vegas, it was available. 15 years later I still can't do that in Premiere, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

 

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Correct answer by Ann Bens | Adobe Community Professional

Select Track Selection Forward Tool (A).

Hold down Ctrl and click on first clip

Drag everthing up or down (dont let go of the ctrl) to new empty track.

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a couple of ways to do this.  Lock all video tracks except your source and target track (not necessary but an additional layer of safety) . .  Make sure your source video track is on in the patch panel of timeline.  Put your playhead on the first frame of the source track and select all clips.  Hit command-x (cut all) . Then turn off the source video track in the target part of the patch panel of the timeline.   Make sure the target track is the only track selected in track target section of the patch panel of the timeline and hit command-v.   Pretty simple.   Can give you a few other ways, but this seems the simplest to me.     If my language is not clear it's probably not my fault.  Happy to send a screen grab to make this clearer if you want.

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No I totally understand what you are saying. I know that is an option so thank you.

What I'm saying is, I should just be able to click on V1 and drag it to V3. Easy, one manouver.

Why do I have to lock tracks, cut and paste and all that stuff. It should be easy click and drag.

When you have 16 layers of audio or 8 layers of video, with an hour project. It can get very confusion (as you know) when grabing clips and moving them to and from. By grabbing a track and simply moving a track, it eliminates all risk of missing some or writing over some.

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I understand your frustration, but if you make sure your entire
timeline is displayed, and create a new track in the desired position,
lock all but your source and target track, this should be pretty
simple. Gotta say I do this kind of thing all the time.

just saw your latest email, If you lock the audio track before you do
the move it should work fine. You could also turn of linked selection
for the timeline.

Working in 2019, so not sure what works in CS6

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The most perfect solution other than to simply allow me to click and drag a track up would be to lock the tracks above, highlight my clips and to nudge them to an empty track above or below, however, if you have a locked tack in between you can't nudge. You have to click and drag and again, run that risk of moving footage.

yes, I can turn on snapping, yes I can make a marker to keep it all aligned.

It doesn't change the fact that the best solution would just allow me to click and drag a track up or down.

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PPro is a little more sophisticated than vegas IMO. Although I had vegas and liked it OK.

When I first got PPro ( CS3 ? ) I didn't have a motion pic camera, so I used an animation to begin to learn the program. Drew stuff in photoshop and imported layers ( with alpha), and put on different video levels ( tracks)... and got the timing down with music ( one audio track) and added soundFX ( more audio tracks, some overlayed ).

You need that precise control when doing stuff and I think PPro does a good job of letting people find the right workflow for what they are doing.

 

first edit using CS3

1:40 approx time

a nyc guy follows his nose instead of his brain and this leads to trouble.

 

https://vimeo.com/383130405

 

Story about a guy in nyc who follows his nose, instead of using his brain. Leads to some troubles. Happy ending, though.

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Thank you. I should mention that I have been using Adobe Premeire for the last 9 years, so this isn't new to me. (not meant to sound snarky)

I am quite proficient at Premiere and After Effects.

My work pace is increasing all the time and I am always looking to speed up my process. 

I chose premeire over FCP because premiere does allow the user much greater freedom on their exprerience.

I also spent 7 years, as an editor for tv using AVID. So Premeire is the preferred choice based on intreface and user experience.

However, there are some things like swapping track arrangement or locking selected clips in place on the timeline or locking markers that Vegas had that would make this experience flawless in my eyes. 

 

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yeah, but if you're linked to audio when moving video ( and that audio also wants to move when you tell it to via video track selection ( and that link to audio).. then it gets messed up... you could overwrite the audio at that point or push it ... you're right it's complicated... and I think you can go to the far left and move the tracks ( like move V2 up to V1  ? ) but I don't remember really.... I'll open cs6 and see if I can do that...

 

I don't have new subscription stuff.

 

🙂

 

good luck !

 

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That's what I'm saying, I want to be able to just click on V1 at the left and highlight the whole V1 track, then click and drag it up or down. It shouldn't even change anything else excet that arrangement. It would be beautiful and quick and eliminate the chances of overwriting clips. 

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don't detect any snarkiness in your posts...  and always a good idea to tell us what your experience level is.   I understand what you're saying and can never hurt to post your frustration in case you're missing something.    Wondering if there's a way to edit your sequence into a new sequence (not as a nest but actually using the source clips).  Think there used to be a way to do that in fcp7.   Anyone?   

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I think Mgren's last message is the best answer for you.

If you wanna make feature requests there's some link for that somewhere.

I hope you continue to come to the forums to improve the program and also maybe help others, as many have come from avid and fcp and vegas like you, and you know a lot. Thanks.

🙂

 

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I will definately ask for it as a feature request. I have done that in the past but thought I'd see if was actually a thing first.

Like maybe all I had to do was to hold option and do it lol.

There are sooooooo many time saving things that you kind of happen upon or you see in a tutorial and you're like damn, I've been doing it the long way the whole time.

I appreciate your responses. Thank you for taking the time.

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Select Track Selection Forward Tool (A).

Hold down Ctrl and click on first clip

Drag everthing up or down (dont let go of the ctrl) to new empty track.

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