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Exporting 5.1 Mix + Two Stereo Tracks in One QT

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I have to deliver a QT of a trailer to a streaming service. They are requesting the following specs for audio: 8 Tracks (L, R, C, Lfe, Ls, Rs, Stereo-Left, Stereo-Right) / Loudness -23db

 

I'm currently testing my audio workflow (basing it off of this thread) but have some questions about the result.

 

1. I've set up a template sequence for the edit (black video for placeholder). The trailer will only be using a single song, which the client has provided as a stereo file, which I have edited to fit the time.

1_Edit Sequence.png

2. Then, I've nested my edit sequence, brought it into the template export sequence that I downloaded from the original thread, and have duplicated the audio track to fill each of the 8 tracks. (Is this correct, or will this negatively affect the audio quality because it's the same audio on top of itself 8 times?)

2_Nested Sequence.png

This is how the audio tracks are mapped in the new export sequence. (I've added the required Loudness Rader and a Hard Limiter to the master track).

3_Nested Sequence_AudioTrackMixer.png

4_Nested Sequence_AudioChannels.png

3. Then, I'm using the following export settings (also downloaded from the previous thread)

5_Export Settings.png

When I bring the resulting .mov back into Premiere, this is the resulting sequence / and how it appears in the audio track mixer panel. 

6_Result.png

7_Result_AudioTrackMixer.png

 

I'm confused by a few things here. The peaking indicates that the loudness radar / hard limiter did not affect the stereo tracks in the master (but it does appear to be working when looking at Audio 2 in the Track Mixer).  And, finally, curious why the stereo tracks appear as the first two bars in the audio levels panel when they are supposed to be tracks 7/8.

 

I'm major audio noob, and a highly visual learner so screenshots are BEYOND appreciated in your responses if possible - thanks in advance!!!

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Exporting 5.1 Mix + Two Stereo Tracks in One QT

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I have to deliver a QT of a trailer to a streaming service. They are requesting the following specs for audio: 8 Tracks (L, R, C, Lfe, Ls, Rs, Stereo-Left, Stereo-Right) / Loudness -23db

 

I'm currently testing my audio workflow (basing it off of this thread) but have some questions about the result.

 

1. I've set up a template sequence for the edit (black video for placeholder). The trailer will only be using a single song, which the client has provided as a stereo file, which I have edited to fit the time.

1_Edit Sequence.png

2. Then, I've nested my edit sequence, brought it into the template export sequence that I downloaded from the original thread, and have duplicated the audio track to fill each of the 8 tracks. (Is this correct, or will this negatively affect the audio quality because it's the same audio on top of itself 8 times?)

2_Nested Sequence.png

This is how the audio tracks are mapped in the new export sequence. (I've added the required Loudness Rader and a Hard Limiter to the master track).

3_Nested Sequence_AudioTrackMixer.png

4_Nested Sequence_AudioChannels.png

3. Then, I'm using the following export settings (also downloaded from the previous thread)

5_Export Settings.png

When I bring the resulting .mov back into Premiere, this is the resulting sequence / and how it appears in the audio track mixer panel. 

6_Result.png

7_Result_AudioTrackMixer.png

 

I'm confused by a few things here. The peaking indicates that the loudness radar / hard limiter did not affect the stereo tracks in the master (but it does appear to be working when looking at Audio 2 in the Track Mixer).  And, finally, curious why the stereo tracks appear as the first two bars in the audio levels panel when they are supposed to be tracks 7/8.

 

I'm major audio noob, and a highly visual learner so screenshots are BEYOND appreciated in your responses if possible - thanks in advance!!!

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so you don't have a 5.1 mix and you're just duplicating your mix to fill the 6 tracks or am I misreading your post?    That's not a 5.1 mix and does not fufill the specs.  There are plug-ins that will create a 5.1 mix that might fufill the specs...  but you should talk to an audio guy who may be able to help you at a reasonable expense.    Or you can spend some time googling and try and do it yourself.  Not sure if the plug-ins would work within premiere.  You might need to use a dedicated audio program like audition, protools or whatever the apple one's named...

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Yes, Googling was what led me to the original post I referenced, which are the steps I was following. Would you be able to point me to any of those plug-ins you speak of? I haven't been able to locate any, that would be a fantastic help. I have Audition, so am able to purchase plug-in's for that as well.

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got lots of hits googling "audio plugins to fake a 5.1 mix."  This is not my field of expertise but I've had to deliver 5.1 mixes on a number of projects and since I was working with a sound designer we discussed what the options were.  We always went with a more "custom" approach but I imagine one of these plug-ins would do the job.  As to configuring the output, that's always been a nightmare.  I've had to do it maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 5 years.  The first few times were outputting from fcp7.  If you get stuck on how to configure the output in Premiere, do some searching here.  I seem to remember a conversation a year or so ago about exactly this subject.  If you can't find it, post back and I'll see if I can dig it up...  I seem to remember that you had to have a set of 4 stereo tracks which you then output as individual mono tracks, but I may be hallucinating...

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