Footage Darker Inside Premiere

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Feb 15, 2021 Feb 15, 2021

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For some reason since a recent update all my footage looks much darker inside of Premiere then when I look at in in any other application (QuickTime, VLC, DaVinci Resolve, etc.). It doesn't seem to be tied to any particular kind of footage as I am seeing the issue with multiple formats, H264 files from a DSLR, R3D files, and ProRes files. 

 

I am on a Mac running Big Sur with the most recent version of Premiere.

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Adobe Employee , Feb 19, 2021 Feb 19, 2021
Hi there, Thanks for writing in. I assume you need to enable color management while editing the video on your macOS using Premiere Pro. Check out this article for more info: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/user-guide.html/premiere-pro/using/color-management.ug.html Let us know if it helps or if you have more questions.   Regards, Shivangi

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Adobe Employee ,
Feb 19, 2021 Feb 19, 2021

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Hi there,

Thanks for writing in. I assume you need to enable color management while editing the video on your macOS using Premiere Pro. Check out this article for more info: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/user-guide.html/premiere-pro/using/color-management.ug.html

 

Let us know if it helps or if you have more questions. 🙂 

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Shivangi

 

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Feb 20, 2021 Feb 20, 2021

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Enabling colour management on a Mac doesn't fix this though, it just gives it a different look that is also very unaccurate.

The best is to change the Mac Display settings to a Rec.709

 

Using enable colour management only works inside Premiere pro, and your export will be even more off than it would be if you didn't use it, I'm not sure why it's recommended because honestly it's a messy feature

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Feb 20, 2021 Feb 20, 2021

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Display color managment was created because of the mess Apple created when they went to the Retina monitors and chose to have their ColorSync utility apply only parts of the Rec.709 standards.

 

Rec. 709 requires both the scene and display transform functions, gamma 2.4 in the recommended 'semi-dark room' workflow or 2.2 in 'bright room' working environments. D65 white point, 100 nits screen white bright point.

 

ColorSync appllies only the scene transform, does not apply the display transform, and uses what Apple calls "sRGB Gamma" which in testing by numerous experts is somewhere between 1.95 and 1.96 mostly sort of. And of course, llike most monitors, the Retinas can be quite bright and Apple's setting for them is apparently about full-on.

 

Adobe came up with that "Display color management" option as it was the only way to get a decently remapped actual Rec.709 image inside of Premiere Pro. They have no control outside of PrPro of course. So they also created that converrsion LUT to use in the Export dialog that will mod the export to look 'normal' when ColorSync does its thing.

 

Of course, that means on any properly color managed system it's not good though.

 

BlackMagic in their Resolve app tried a different approach ... they created the "Rec.709-A" export option, A specifically meaning for Apple. It adds a different NLC tag in the file, which when played in a ColorSync managed app looks like normal Rec.709.

 

The problem is that file doesn't do any better on 'normal' Rec.709 systems than the one exported with that Adobe LUT.

 

Yea, color management in general is a mess. My colorist pals and acquaintances deal with this every day. They scream a lot ...

 

Neil

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Apr 26, 2021 Apr 26, 2021

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I am having this issue as well and this did not fix it. I shoot on the Canon R and have used Premiere Pro for years to edit footage from the R without issues. Must have been a recent update that now my footage appears darker. Specifically, the blacks are crushed and lose details. 

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Apr 27, 2021 Apr 27, 2021

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This thread is essentially on the problems with color management on a Mac.

 

Are you on a Mac?

 

Neil

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